trial thread: 3/16/2012

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New thread for a new day. Please remember the rules


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when posting an opinion please remember to use your :moo: or :twocents: or just IMO or JMO will do nicely.

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the crown will present its case in chapters:

Chapter 1: The day of the kidnapping. The surveillance video showing Rafferty driving up the street outside Tori's school and McClintic walking Tori up the street. Witnesses from and around Oliver Stephens public school will talk about seeing Tori.

An identification officer will use photographs and maps to show the route from Woodstock to Guelph.

Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, will testify about the frantic hours the family spent looking for Tori.

Chapter 2: Terri-Lynne McClintic. "She was an essential part of all that happened," Gowdey said. "I expect her credibility will be a major issue in this case."

Chapter 3: Guelph -- video surveillance and bank records detailing the events there.


Chapter 4: the Mount Forest death scene, which the jury will visit. "It will be difficult to go to the very place where this happened, I know that, but understanding the crime scene is crucial to understanding the crime," Gowdey said. Photographs, some of them graphic, will be used to explain "exactly how the killing happened."

"Unfortunately it is only through them that you can fully understand (the) evidence," Gowdey said.

Chapter 5: Police interaction with Rafferty.

Chapter 6: The searches of Rafferty and McClintic's residences and the evidence found.

Chapter 7: The Honda Civic. What was found inside.

Chapter 8: Rafferty's connection to the Mount Forest area.

Chapter 9: Comments Rafferty made to friends after April 8. "He had some interesting things to say to other people about Terri-Lynne McClintic and about the kidnapping itself," Gowdey said.

Chapter 10: The May 15 weekend and Rafferty's actions.

Chapter 11: The BlackBerry. The BlackBerry allowed police to track his movements April 8 and after.

Chapter 12: A recap of the surveillance video.
http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19463111.html


reposting Salem's warning from last week:

Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.

Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.

We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.

Thank you,

Salem
 
Good Morning!

TORI-PIC-300x225.jpg
 
Woodstock 'more fearful' after Stafford's death

The man who was mayor of Woodstock, Ont., at the time of Victoria (Tori) Stafford's death says the small city where she was abducted has become a less innocent, more fearful place.

"I can still recall the pictures as this community..." Michael Harding said Thursday, trailing off as he struggled not to choke up. "It's so sad, this senseless, pointless act."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...nto-woodstock-reaction-stafford-rafferty.html
 
Do you avoid the details of difficult murder trials?

The trial, which is expected to last several months, and has attracted much media coverage and public attention.

But many people, including journalists like Matt Galloway, the host of CBC Toronto's Metro Morning, avoid coverage of difficult murder cases altogether.

"I can't read these stories. I just can't put myself through that," Galloway said during an interview with Toronto-based lawyer Tim Danson.

Danson, who represented the victims' families during the gruesome 1995 trial of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka, acknowledged that these types of trials are "excruciating" and of "unspeakable and unimaginable horror."

Still, he spoke of the need to air out the truth, as difficult as it is, and the importance of adhering to the open court principle, which he said ensures that justice is carried out.

"If you start setting up a rule of sanitizing the facts so that the public doesn't really know exactly what happened then you're not in a position to evaluate the administration of justice," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunit...d-the-details-of-difficult-murder-trials.html
 
Not true love with McClintic's man after all

LONDON, ONT. - Their paths cross accidentally in a Woodstock pizza shop and a deadly partnership is born.

He is controlling and quick to anger, she says, with fantasies of kidnapping a child. She is a junkie and a loser, unlucky in love. But together, she would be Bonnie to his Clyde. And if they were caught, she promised she’d take the fall for him, she’d even confess to first-degree murder. For him.

And she did, didn’t she? Just as she promised Michael Rafferty almost three years ago.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/03/14/not-true-love-with-mcclintics-man-afterall
 
@LindaNguyenPN
Terri-Lynne McClintic is set to be back on the stand today in the Michael #Rafferty trial
 
On CP24 just now, they reported that there are purple ribbons everywhere in Woodstock.
 
Maybe, but Tori may not have been in it. If McClintic had stashed her somewhere after the abduction, Rafferty could argue that he didn't know anything about what was going on. He might even say that she had the car that day, or most of it, and that he had no idea who was driving it. To overcome that the prosecution will have to present some evidence to circumvent those arguments.

The problem for the prosecution as I see it is that so far there has been no evidence presented actually connecting Rafferty to the crime - it has all been McClintic's allegations, which we have seen has changed between confession and the trial.

This is from yesterday's thread.

I hope the Crown is going to call the person they bought those percs from as a witness that day. That would prove MR was in fact in that car and nobody else was driving.
 
9:32
Mike Knoll: @Guest - yes. now that she has testified, she has been in the courtroom.
9:31
Comment From Guest
is tara mcdonald allowed in the court room now
 
9:34
Mike Knoll: @Jenn - yes. we respect her wish not to speak to the media.
9:34
Comment From Jenn
Has Tara been asked for a statement, like the ones Rodney keeps giving during lunch breaks?
 
RaffertyLFP: court is resuming jury is out [via Twitter]
 
RaffertyLFP: The media cannot report any details of the court proceedings while the jury is out [via Twitter]
 
RaffertyLFP: Fairly small crowd in the overflow today, almost all media [via Twitter]
 
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