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    Man shocked by tazer in Florida not expected to survive

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...urvive/1220696


    LARGO — A 37-year-old man repeatedly shocked by a deputy's Taser as he violently struggled Saturday at Honeymoon Island is on a ventilator and not expected to survive, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said Sunday.
    James Clifton Barnes became distraught about 12:30 p.m. while at the state park, the sheriff said at a news conference in Largo.
    Barnes went into the water with his aunt and was physically fighting with her, when an officer with the state Department of Environmental Protection, Joseph Tactuk, tried to stop him.
    Barnes then got into a fist fight with the officer, the sheriff said, but eventually was placed in handcuffs.

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    Why on earth would they shock this guy with a tazer, while he's in handcuffs, 3x's???? I would believe they would be able to restrain him since he was in handcuffs in a better manner.

    I know I wasnt there but he's all wet and in handcuffs and then they tazer him?
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    Even in handcuffs he is still armed. He has his head, teeth, body and feet as weapons. An officer could just try to move out of the guys way, but they have to make sure the guy isn't endangering himself or others if he continues fighting.

    IMO anyone who is given a direct order by LE, knowing LE is armed, should be obeying. If they do not, they are endangering themselves. If I were inclined to yell at anyone, it would be the guy they tazed.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Tasers should never be used without an AED present!

    "While waiting for better guidelines and more research, Tseng, the California cardiologist, has a simple recommendation for policemen using Tasers: “The antidote is easily available, and that’s the Automatic External Defibrillator, which is present at every airport, at every casino,” he said. “Put an AED in the trunk of your police car if you’re using the Taser.”

    “Does it really make sense to be out there using the weapon in many situations where there are alternatives?” Hashad asks. “When we don’t really know what the impact on the individual is? Is that really a risk we’re going to take?”

    "Doctors have also started worrying about the other big electric organ in our body: the brain".... ...."This is how a typical epileptic seizure develops"

    "the weapon, if possible, should not be used when it can cause a fall from an elevated position."

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...r-danger/all/1

    Tasers can stop the ♥ in some people. Inappropriate use can lead to death form seizures and head injuries as well. I get why officers need to use them but IMO they need to suspend their use until NEW safety guidelines can be established and offices retrained...
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    "James Clifton Brown went to the beach with his aunt to "cleanse himself" after receiving some troubling news about a relationship and, according to the aunt, went "berserk" in the water, the sheriff said."

    "Tactuk entered the water to arrest Barnes and fight between the two men ensued, the sheriff said. It was a very violent struggle, which may have lasted as long as five minutes in the water"

    "one of the handcuffs was behind Mr. Barnes' head, one was up his back"

    "Gultiari said the third discharge stopped Barnes, but that when officers removed the handcuffs to apply them properly, they saw that Barnes was not breathing."

    http://www.baynews9.com/content/news...ered_by_deput/

    Wow he was flippin out! Odd story for sure.
    ~ my opinion only



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