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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Only 1 of the 5 missing person's in Big Springs is female, and she was born in 1960, and missing since 1979.

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpch.htm

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    This deceased person (may they RIP) doesn't necessarily belong in Howard County, much like Hailey isn't from there.
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    "Normal" is just a setting on a dryer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    It depends if the material is cotton (natural) or synthetic. Synthetic stays around for ages and ages.
    There might still be faded scraps, even if cotton...and of course any jewelry the murderer forgot to remove...since it is highly unlikely robbery was a motive, even if not Hailey...
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    It depends if the material is cotton (natural) or synthetic. Synthetic stays around for ages and ages.
    like the words on Caylee's little shirt survived everything/winnie the poo too
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    update http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=480182



    "Colorado City Police Chief Roy Owens confirms that he has been in contact with Big Spring Police and visited the site where the remains were found this afternoon. "


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    Can't remember did Hailey have braces? Because dental records are very fast in determining an ID.

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    I can see a body drying up from the heat absorbed off of a paved or metal surface. If the body was found on the ground, was it the ground of the tarmac? JMO

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    Victor Sotelo ktab twitted 10pm news
    that should be in a few minutes........I have no live link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    From looking at google maps and the news cast showing the tanks I think this tank company rents the south east part of that airport. It does not appear that long wide part of it is used for planes.

    I think they make tanks and move them there until they are shipped. Her is the companies web site and you can see in some of the pics the tanks are sitting on a big stretch of cement.

    http://deserttanks.com/

    If that is the case then there is a road that runs along the back part of that property and I did not see a fence on it.
    The fence that I was referring to was behind the reporter in the NewsWest9 video. There was a fence with red and white along the top with with barbed wire. Beyond that was a cement flat with tanks along the back side and short mesquite trees just beyond that.



    http://www.kwes.com/story/17203792/h...in-big-spring2

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGIRecovered View Post
    I teach junior high school kids. 13 year old girls range in size from looking like a third grader to girls who could pass for over 18. Hailey was just 13. She still looked like a child. Decomposition would make hands look much smaller than they were in life.
    From another recent case (I spend a lot of time in the Unidentified forum with Kimster), a building had been demolished in Hammond, IN. A neighborhood resident's dog walking around the site dug up a skeletonized hand wearing a ring. The first reports said it was a very small body, probably that of a young girl. The decedant was ultimately identified as a grown woman.

    FWIW,this webpage cites research from the University of Tennessee's Body Farm. It states a body exposed to the elements will completely skeletonize within eight months. If buried, one to two years.

    http://www.anthro4n6.net/forensics/
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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    I can see a body drying up from the heat absorbed off of a paved or metal surface. If the body was found on the ground, was it the ground of the tarmac? JMO
    Ground/dirt/sand. That airport is tiny, tiny. Small airport only for private planes. Nothing big could land there.
    "Normal" is just a setting on a dryer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollye View Post
    The fence that I was referring to was behind the reporter in the NewsWest9 video. There was a fence with red and white along the top with with barbed wire. Beyond that was a cement flat with tanks along the back side and short mesquite trees just beyond that.



    http://www.kwes.com/story/17203792/h...in-big-spring2
    Right, I think that fence is going across the old runway that is not being used. On the back side of that behind the tanks I think there is a field and then a road. Between that road and the tanks I don't think there is a fence.

    Just trying to figure out how a body got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmaj View Post
    Can't remember did Hailey have braces? Because dental records are very fast in determining an ID.
    I don't think so grandma, looking at her pics here I don't see any braces.

    http://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn

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    I sure would like to know what Billie, especially is thinking right now.. that's "if" she's truly not involved with what happened and was done with Hailey.. if that's the case I certainly would love to know what's going through her mind as she's sitting in the house with Shawn Adkins... I mean we know without a doubt at minimum she atleast knows what we know(ie. That the remains have been located 1mile from her lover's Momma's home that he's both admitted as well as technology places him directly there during the time in question)... if she's not involved how in the hell could she not be literally going out of her mind at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepThemOnTheRadar View Post
    Oh yes....I do. :'(
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothOperator View Post
    I sure would like to know what Billie, especially is thinking right now.. that's "if" she's truly not involved with what happened and was done with Hailey.. if that's the case I certainly would love to know what's going through her mind as she's sitting in the house with Shawn Adios.. I mean we know without a doubt at minimum she atleast knows what we know(ie. That the remains have been located 1mile from her lover's Momma's home that he's both admitted as well as technology places him directly there during the time in question)... if she's not involved how in the hell could she not be literally going out of her mind at this point?
    I believe that if Hailey is ultimately found in Sean's backyard, so to speak, or in his mother's yard, she will still defend him...sadly.
    Just my opinion, of course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    From another recent case (I spend a lot of time in the Unidentfied forum with Kimster), a building had demolished in Hammond, IN. A neighborhood resident's dog walking around the site dug up a skeletonized hand wearing a ring. The first reports said it was a very small body, probably that of a young girl. The decedant was ultimately identified as a grown woman.

    FWIW,this webpage cites research from the University of Tennessee's Body Farm. It states a body exposed to the elements will completely skeletonize within eight months. If buried, one to two years.

    http://www.anthro4n6.net/forensics/
    And Big Spring (W. Texas) is very, very dry (climate with little humidity). Lots of wind and sand blowing.

    For information only about the dry climate/sand blowing:
    recent dust storm in Lubbock, Tx. This about only about 100 miles from Big Spring.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UwrDWlEGg&feature=related"]Dust Storm in Lubbock Texas 10-17-2011 - YouTube[/ame]
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    Am not able to listen ATM.... Anyone able to transcribe/summarize please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    I was looking back at pictures of Hailey and her hands.
    She was only 13.
    Bigger than mother but still small.
    The Christmas picture by the fireplace shows her hands.
    old article...for pic
    http://www.oaoa.com/articles/dunn-71...ce-mother.html
    Billie is a tiny woman. She's pretty close to child sized herself. I can see how a hand the size of Hailey's could be called a child's. I mean, her grown mom could buy her jeans in the kids department.
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    It does fit perfectly now.. as to why Shawn's cell pinged fro 930am to 230pm from momma.. (rough estimate of time not exact) ..just sayin'


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    Agreed SmoothOperator - I hope if/when we do see Billie in the media and this is actually Hailey, we see more than her usual flat affect or anger.

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    Victor Sotelo said on the live report KTAB that Billies lawyer has been calling her but no reply from Billie. hhmmm


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    Oh boy. Makes me wonder about alot of things.

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition"]Decomposition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    In extremely dry or cold conditions, the normal process of decomposition is halted – by either lack of moisture or temperature controls on bacterial and enzymatic action – causing the body to be preserved as a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy"]Mummy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]. Frozen mummies commonly restart the decomposition process when thawed (see [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi_the_Iceman"]Ă–tzi the Iceman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]), whilst heat-desiccated mummies remain so unless exposed to moisture.

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    John Young (BD's Attorney, remember him?) was contacted. He said he sent Billie text messages, but she had not gotten back to him. Big surprise huh? I'd give anything to see the reaction's of SA & BD when this news broke.
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