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    trial thread: 3/27/2012

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    the crown will present its case in chapters:

    Chapter 1: The day of the kidnapping. The surveillance video showing Rafferty driving up the street outside Tori's school and McClintic walking Tori up the street. Witnesses from and around Oliver Stephens public school will talk about seeing Tori.
    An identification officer will use photographs and maps to show the route from Woodstock to Guelph.
    Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, will testify about the frantic hours the family spent looking for Tori.

    Chapter 2: Terri-Lynne McClintic. "She was an essential part of all that happened," Gowdey said. "I expect her credibility will be a major issue in this case."

    Chapter 3: Guelph -- video surveillance and bank records detailing the events there.


    Chapter 4: the Mount Forest death scene, which the jury will visit. "It will be difficult to go to the very place where this happened, I know that, but understanding the crime scene is crucial to understanding the crime," Gowdey said. Photographs, some of them graphic, will be used to explain "exactly how the killing happened."
    "Unfortunately it is only through them that you can fully understand (the) evidence," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 5: Police interaction with Rafferty.

    Chapter 6: The searches of Rafferty and McClintic's residences and the evidence found.

    Chapter 7: The Honda Civic. What was found inside.

    Chapter 8: Rafferty's connection to the Mount Forest area.

    Chapter 9: Comments Rafferty made to friends after April 8. "He had some interesting things to say to other people about Terri-Lynne McClintic and about the kidnapping itself," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 10: The May 15 weekend and Rafferty's actions.

    Chapter 11: The BlackBerry. The BlackBerry allowed police to track his movements April 8 and after.

    Chapter 12: A recap of the surveillance video.
    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19463111.html

    Salem's warning from last week:
    Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.
    Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.
    We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.
    Thank you,
    Salem

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    Good Morning!

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    Tori's Law - we're up to over 7000 signatures!!!

    http://www.change.org/petitions/tori-s-law
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀


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    Chapter 3: Video surveillance and bank records today? JMO


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    morning peeps! (hey n/t I had a lot of coffee this morning so the thread is open bright and early!)


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    Did they already go to Mount Forest yesterday? Are we on chapter 5 now?
    May you rest in peace.....Tori Stafford

    Missing but never forgotten Nicole Louise Morin last seen July 30th 1985

    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32372


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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    morning peeps! (hey n/t I had a lot of coffee this morning so the thread is open bright and early!)


    Did you see the coffee and cake I left you on the other thread?
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladi View Post
    Did they already go to Mount Forest yesterday? Are we on chapter 5 now?
    Good question. Not sure if they went yesterday or not. It appears they skipped over chapter 4 for now. It probably has to do with arrangements and weather?

    Hopefully we'll find out today when it's scheduled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Good Morning!


    She certainly was a beautiful little girl.... thanks for reminding us what this trial is all about. RIP little one
    Last edited by giantalkinghead; 03-27-2012 at 08:48 AM. Reason: better word choice


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    Rafferty trial shifts focus

    The first-degree murder trial of Michael Rafferty, 31, is set to resume Tuesday, with the Crown's case focusing now on the events in Guelph the day Victoria 'Tori' Stafford went missing.
    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19554161.html
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀


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    I **think** we are only on chapter 3? (refer to opening post.... I color coded it for easy reference)


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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    I **think** we are only on chapter 3? (refer to opening post.... I color coded it for easy reference)
    You could be right but we did have some of Chapter 5 already. Rafferty's interview with police. Maybe there is more to come (??).
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    A London, Ont., jury is expected to hear testimony today from a woman who sold drugs to Michael Rafferty, who is on trial for murder in the death of Woodstock girl Victoria Stafford.

    Last week, the defence sought to paint Rafferty as a horrified spectator to his former girlfriend's plan to kidnap the eight-year-old Victoria, also known as Tori, over a drug debt.

    Terri-Lynne McClintic, who has completed her testimony, denied the defence allegations, saying Rafferty urged her to kidnap the girl.

    Rafferty, 31, has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder, sexual assault causing bodily harm and kidnapping.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...l-tuesday.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by giantalkinghead View Post
    She certainly was a beautiful little girl.... thanks for reminding us what this trial is all about. RIP little one
    Yes, she is beautiful. There is one picture I saw that really captures both of her parents in her face....you see her mother in her eyes and jaw and her father in her cheeks, nose and smile. I can't wait til this trial is over so they can get to the healing (I hope all the family members are in to long term counselling.) I also wonder if RS is in contact with any people like Mark Klaas and others. I think advocation and staying involved in Missing Kids is crucial for RS. I love the photo of TM and her mother hugging her at the trial. She seems to have a good support in Tori's grandmother.

    Even in the darkest of hours and days there are rays of sunshine and hope. You see this with the families. God Bless them and Tori.
    As always, JMO

    Evil is; as evil does.


    Prayers for Jun Lin, his family and those that love him.
    Justice is patient, relentless in its pursuit and is on the march for Justin Lin....


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    Can't help but to be in awe of the strength of character, committment and skills of the LE and Corrections personel who dedicate their lives every day to dealing with those in society the rest of us do not have the fortitude to deal with. I only have ever met one Correction officer who moonlighted as security officer at another place. I must say I was in awe of how sharp, strong and skilled he was (and I assume most would be like that). I was left with the impression that this corrections officer provided the perfect balance of respect for others and strength and skill that you KNEW he was perfect for the job. Almost like a perfect counter balance to those that he dealt with but on the side of good. These jobs must take a personal toll but yet they do it. IMO they really are heroes. It is sometimes easy to forget our first line people who do these jobs on a daily basis and to imagine what their days must be like. Let's be sure and pay them well and be sure and let our politicians know we expect them to be paid well.
    As always, JMO

    Evil is; as evil does.


    Prayers for Jun Lin, his family and those that love him.
    Justice is patient, relentless in its pursuit and is on the march for Justin Lin....


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