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    17-yo Teen Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #7

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    Everybody - you need to calm down. You need to breathe. This thread has had so many alerts a team of mods cannot keep up.

    We understand it is a hot topic and everyone feels passionately about their side of the fence.

    When comparing this case to others - try to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. The major complaint in this case, that has caused it to be a case of national importance, is the fact that no one was arrested for the shooting. Comparing it to cases where the perp was arrested is comparing apples to oranges. Those cases don't make national news because LE did their jobs, investigated and arrested someone.

    Also, comparing it to cases where there was a trial is comparing apples to oranges - there has not even been an arrest here, so it does not compare to a case that was decided by a jury.

    Please try to post responsibly. This is an important discussion, for the entire country. Just pulling things out of thin air, spouting off to fan the flames, and linking to information, pictures, etc. that are clearly not of the parties in this case is just plain inflammatory - we don't need that. This case is emotional enough without looking for ways to make it even more sensational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Everybody - you need to calm down. You need to breathe. This thread has had so many alerts a team of mods cannot keep up.

    We understand it is a hot topic and everyone feels passionately about their side of the fence.

    When comparing this case to others - try to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. The major complaint in this case, that has caused it to be a case of national importance, is the fact that no one was arrested for the shooting. Comparing it to cases where the perp was arrested is comparing apples to oranges. Those cases don't make national news because LE did their jobs, investigated and arrested someone.

    Also, comparing it to cases where there was a trial is comparing apples to oranges - there has not even been an arrest here, so it does not compare to a case that was decided by a jury.

    Please try to post responsibly. This is an important discussion, for the entire country. Just pulling things out of thin air, spouting off to fan the flames, and linking to information, pictures, etc. that are clearly not of the parties in this case is just plain inflammatory - we don't need that. This case is emotional enough without looking for ways to make it even more sensational.

    Breathe, think about what you are saying and posting. Be sure it is pertinent, linkable if it is not your opinion, and said respectfully. Everybody gets a voice, as long as they post their voice responsibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Everybody - you need to calm down. You need to breathe. This thread has had so many alerts a team of mods cannot keep up.

    We understand it is a hot topic and everyone feels passionately about their side of the fence.

    When comparing this case to others - try to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. The major complaint in this case, that has caused it to be a case of national importance, is the fact that no one was arrested for the shooting. Comparing it to cases where the perp was arrested is comparing apples to oranges. Those cases don't make national news because LE did their jobs, investigated and arrested someone.

    Also, comparing it to cases where there was a trial is comparing apples to oranges - there has not even been an arrest here, so it does not compare to a case that was decided by a jury.


    Please try to post responsibly. This is an important discussion, for the entire country. Just pulling things out of thin air, spouting off to fan the flames, and linking to information, pictures, etc. that are clearly not of the parties in this case is just plain inflammatory - we don't need that. This case is emotional enough without looking for ways to make it even more sensational.

    Breathe, think about what you are saying and posting. Be sure it is pertinent, linkable if it is not your opinion, and said respectfully. Everybody gets a voice, as long as they post their voice responsibly.

    Thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Everybody - you need to calm down. You need to breathe. This thread has had so many alerts a team of mods cannot keep up.

    We understand it is a hot topic and everyone feels passionately about their side of the fence.

    When comparing this case to others - try to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. The major complaint in this case, that has caused it to be a case of national importance, is the fact that no one was arrested for the shooting. Comparing it to cases where the perp was arrested is comparing apples to oranges. Those cases don't make national news because LE did their jobs, investigated and arrested someone.

    Also, comparing it to cases where there was a trial is comparing apples to oranges - there has not even been an arrest here, so it does not compare to a case that was decided by a jury.

    Please try to post responsibly. This is an important discussion, for the entire country. Just pulling things out of thin air, spouting off to fan the flames, and linking to information, pictures, etc. that are clearly not of the parties in this case is just plain inflammatory - we don't need that. This case is emotional enough without looking for ways to make it even more sensational.

    Breathe, think about what you are saying and posting. Be sure it is pertinent, linkable if it is not your opinion, and said respectfully. Everybody gets a voice, as long as they post their voice responsibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Everybody - you need to calm down. You need to breathe. This thread has had so many alerts a team of mods cannot keep up.

    We understand it is a hot topic and everyone feels passionately about their side of the fence.

    When comparing this case to others - try to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. The major complaint in this case, that has caused it to be a case of national importance, is the fact that no one was arrested for the shooting. Comparing it to cases where the perp was arrested is comparing apples to oranges. Those cases don't make national news because LE did their jobs, investigated and arrested someone.

    Also, comparing it to cases where there was a trial is comparing apples to oranges - there has not even been an arrest here, so it does not compare to a case that was decided by a jury.

    Please try to post responsibly. This is an important discussion, for the entire country. Just pulling things out of thin air, spouting off to fan the flames, and linking to information, pictures, etc. that are clearly not of the parties in this case is just plain inflammatory - we don't need that. This case is emotional enough without looking for ways to make it even more sensational.

    Breathe, think about what you are saying and posting. Be sure it is pertinent, linkable if it is not your opinion, and said respectfully. Everybody gets a voice, as long as they post their voice responsibly.

    Thank you,

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    And one more for bump's sake
    It's been a long day, folks. Hopefully tomorrow will bring more news that will be helpful.

    Not a mod nor pretending to be, just bumping their words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourish View Post
    And one more for bump's sake
    It's been a long day, folks. Hopefully tomorrow will bring more news that will be helpful.

    Not a mod nor pretending to be, just bumping their words.
    Lol. I'm voting for the lock the thread until the morning!
    Clear your mind must be, if you are to discover the real villains behind this plot. Opinion only, my posts are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    Lol. I'm voting for the lock the thread until the morning!
    The selfish part of me wants it to so I don't miss anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourish View Post
    And one more for bump's sake
    It's been a long day, folks. Hopefully tomorrow will bring more news that will be helpful.

    Not a mod nor pretending to be, just bumping their words.
    Unless I missed it, everyone is having a very civil debate - some of us stay up late and others join very late because of time zones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vlpate View Post
    Unless I missed it, everyone is having a very civil debate - some of us stay up late and others join very late because of time zones.
    Wasn't implying we weren't. I've been bumping it up randomly throughout the past many hours. I understand there are different time zones in the world. Didn't mean to offend anyone with my reference to it being late in the day when it isn't late in the day everywhere?

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    We will unlock the thread in the morning for your continued discussion.

    Thanks!


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    Opening up, please post nicely! Thanks everyone.

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    I'm sort of late reading very much regarding this case, so if this is common knowledge please excuse my asking, but has it been stated or reported where Trayvon Martin had been prior to coming back to this subdivision that night?


    But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops. Luke 12, 2-3



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    My understanding, he was at the store buying skittles and a drink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imamaze View Post
    My understanding, he was at the store buying skittles and a drink.
    Thanks Ima, that's part of what I'm wondering about. I live in Tampa and my company does work throught the Central FL corridor. We were one of the prime contractors on the Kohl store, very near where this happened. I've been there numerous times, as recently as 2 months ago, and for the life of me I can't remember any kind of convience store in that area.

    Go to Google Maps with the interactive satellite view and see if I'm overlooking something. I see and remember car dealerships, banks, and the Kohl store but nothing that would seem to sell Skittles or iced tea anywhere near this location.

    I'm just curious.....


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