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    Sierra LaMar, 15, has been missing since Friday, March 16. She left home early that morning to walk to her bus stop for school. Her cell phone was found along a local roadway shortly after, and her purse/bag was also found later.

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    Is the surname spelled LaMar confirmed? If so, could the thread title be corrected?

    Sorry, I'm just a stickler for stuff like this! <g>

    (bad back all day, been useless...this is my ONE contribution, ha)

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    I am convinced that this is a planned abduction rather than an opportunistic one. If it had happened by the bus stop, I could see an argument for opportunistic but with the trailing dog losing her scent at the end of her own driveway, I think this is planned.

    If so, then I think the perpetrator was comfortable and familiar in that area.

    I believe the perpetrator got rid of the smartphone and JC bag as quickly as possible to limit the amount of information LE could glean from them. I think the bag was tossed right away because of the risk that Sierra was carrying some type of GPS locator that had a geographical alert programmed into it. I doubt the perpetrator ever opened the bag; too much risk of leaving DNA and trace evidence.

    While it's tempting to think that a perp is taunting LE, I think that's actually relatively uncommon and very high risk behaviour.

    This does not seem to me to be a very high risk taking perpetrator because everything that is known to have been done has actually been pretty low risk.

    And if all this is so, then I believe Sierra's body will be found relatively nearby. There's a finite amount of territory that one person can become familiar and comfortable in.

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    I'm in agreement that this was most likely planned out. Although many criminals get away with crimes of opportunity with some luck, I don't get the feeling this was the case here. It's too perfect.

    The quiet, out of the way court with well spaced out homes where no one was likely to notice someone snatched at the end of the cul-de-sac. The mature trees and shrubs which blocked most of the view between houses and could have provided cover for someone laying in wait.

    Knowing the schedule of Sierra, her parents, and most likely her closest neighbors as well. They possibly even knew the schedule of the workers in the fields close to Sierra's house since it sounds like they didn't see or hear anything, and one of them said they just happen to be working off Bailey that morning instead of the fields closer to Sierra's house.

    Taking someone from the front of their house is always a risk, but I feel this was a risk that was well calculated. I think she was being watched for some time and this was well planned out until the timing was perfect to make a move.

    I hope that all home and land owners in the vicinity are searching their properties. I read that volunteer searchers are not allowed to search private property, and there must be acres of privately owned property that needs to be looked over thoroughly. I'm glad to hear that they are explanding the search to the reservoirs west of Morgan Hill. I have a feeling that if she's no longer with us and someone dumped her body, they may have done it in the area of Bailey, Uvas, Mt. Madonna, or if they wanted to put more effort into it, the Santa Cruz mountains. If that's the case it would really be like searching for a needle in a haystack. MOO

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    Probably grasping at straws at this point, but I noticed an area on Uvas that is concerning. Most of Uvas seems to be fenced off or gated, which is good because that would make it a pain for the perp to try and dump anything. I did find this spot that doesn't appear fenced, is easily accessible by car, and backs into some dense woods. If someone parked their car close to the tree line (and by the tire tracks, it looks like people have) they probably wouldn't be noticed by drivers scooting down twisty Uvas concentrating on the road at 40+mph.

    An area I'd definitely want to check out among a million others.





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    Quote Originally Posted by obscured View Post
    Probably grasping at straws at this point, but I noticed an area on Uvas that is concerning. Most of Uvas seems to be fenced off or gated, which is good because that would make it a pain for the perp to try and dump anything. I did find this spot that doesn't appear fenced, is easily accessible by car, and backs into some dense woods. If someone parked their car close to the tree line (and by the tire tracks, it looks like people have) they probably wouldn't be noticed by drivers scooting down twisty Uvas concentrating on the road at 40+mph.

    An area I'd definitely want to check out among a million others.



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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7729468"]CA Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 timeline and media thread - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


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    Sunday, March 25, 2012

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...h-lamar/nLcS4/

    March 25 more @ link

    Law enforcement officials looking for evidence in the case of a missing Morgan Hill girl came up empty during a search Saturday.

    Santa County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Jose Cardoza says teams of Santa Clara County and deputies from nearby counties found no evidence or what he termed "items of interest" as the search for 15-year-old Sierra Lamar continues.
    http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/...a4bcf6878.html

    March 25 more @ link

    The fourth and largest search involving 60 members of search and rescue teams and other law enforcement agencies concluded Saturday with no new evidence. The extended search covered a 12 mile radius from Palm and Dougherty avenues in north Morgan Hill and included four K-9 dogs. The FBI joined the search last week.

    “It's a day to day operation,” said Cardoza.

    Detectives worked inside the office today to catch up on documenting and updating interviews. Then, said Cardoza, they will come up with a game plan for the next steps of the investigation.
    http://www.kionrightnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=17251536

    March 25 more @ link

    On Sunday Santa Clara deputies took the day off from searching and instead sifted through evidence and past interviews for clues looking for 15 year old Sierra Lamar.

    Meanwhile businesses all over town have signs plastered everywhere looking for Sierra. You can see them in just about every door you walk in. "As far as you know the town, I know we're doing everything we can," said Andrew Suarez.

    Hundreds of fliers have been passed out by friends and family of Sierra. Hoping to bring her home. "We're all pretty tight, you know one big family. All of the businesses around here.
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...144180515.html

    March 25 more @ link

    The KlaasKids Foundation will launch volunteer searches for missing Morgan Hill teen Sierra LaMar on Tuesday, the nonprofit announced today.

    LaMar's mother, Marlene LaMar, has asked the organization, which is dedicated to assisting the families of missing children, to organize the community volunteer search, KlaasKids officials said.
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...bay&id=8595080

    March 25 more @ link

    Community members gathered for another vigil for missing South Bay teen Sierra LaMar on Sunday.

    The vigil at the Crossroad Christian Center was the fourth held in honor of Sierra since she disappeared. Organizers say the gatherings are important to maintain public awareness and keep the focus Sierra.

    Friends made more than 500 pink and black ribbons to pass out at the vigil. Pink and black zebra stripe is one of Sierra's favorite things.
    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/vid...gan-hill-teen/

    March 25 video @ link

    Reporter: At a vigil Sunday night, Sierra's mother thanked both LE and the community.

    Marlene: It's just amazing how everybody is coming together and Sierra's going to be so- so, just, amazed at- you know, cause I'm saving all this stuff cause she's going to come back safely and I want her to see how- how much she's really loved. Thank you.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_202546...missing-morgan

    March 25 more @ link

    Santa Cruz County deputies on Sunday investigated a possible sighting of Sierra LaMar, after a witness called 911 to report seeing a teen hitchhiking on Holohan Road that looked like the missing 15-year-old Morgan Hill girl, authorities said.

    The witness reported that the girl had backpacks with her and was near the intersection of East Lake Avenue when she got into a black truck, sheriff's Lt. Bob Pursley said.
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    March 25 Websleuths Radio w/ Marc Klass

    Monday, March 26, 2012

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46854793/#.T3LyRNn7mOc

    March 26 Today show video @ link

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...144265135.html

    March 26 more @ link

    On Saturday, about 90 people, along with search dogs, spent the day combing a 12-mile area of Morgan Hill near her mother's home. Investigators said they found nothing of substance.
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    Her father Steve LaMar did his own physical search of canyons in Morgan Hill over the weekend, but found nothing. "I'm just desperate," Steve LaMar said.
    http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...new?source=rss

    March 26 more @ link

    Saturday was the largest search effort since the former Fremont resident went missing more than a week ago. The search has included possible "crime scene areas" along Highway 152 on the approaches to Pacheco Pass and Hecker Pass.
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/video/#!/n...hter/144269495

    March 26 video @ link

    Reporter: Her parents split their time yesterday between vigils and prayer services and participating for the first time in their own search for their 15 year old daughter.

    Marlene: It gets harder and harder but we're hanging in there, you know. We're-we're hopeful. We're not giving up.

    Steve: I, you know, hearts racing, you know, and I have adrenaline, you know. I'm mentally exhausted but I'm going on adrenaline just because I want to anything, any clue. So-I can't-I can't- just sit back, you know, I have to get out there and try.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...s-sierra-lamar

    March 26 more @ link

    Santa Clara County Sheriff Sgt. Jose Cardoza on Monday said there were no real updates to Sierra's case. But he did note investigators were aware of the many reported tips regarding other attempted abductions and possible sightings of Sierra around the Bay Area. So far, all of them have been unfounded, Cardoza said.
    http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/...a4bcf6878.html

    March 26 more @ link

    As of Monday, the sheriff’s office’s plan for the ongoing investigation is to “re-canvass” areas that have already been searched – including the neighborhoods and fields surrounding the LaMar home in north Morgan Hill – and to re-interview some of Sierra’s classmates and former classmates, according to sheriff’s Sgt. Jose Cardoza.

    More than 40 local sheriff’s deputies have been assigned to the case – not including those assisting from the FBI and surrounding counties, Cardoza said.
    http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/...a4bcf6878.html

    March 26 more @ link

    The Polly Klaas Foundation is helping find the Morgan Hill teen by “inundating” the immediate area and the state with fliers and publicity efforts about the case, according to response department director Cindy Rudometkin.

    After last weekend's heightened efforts to locate the 15-year-old yielded no significant leads, Sgt. Jose Cardoza with the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office said the extra help from the foundation is appreciated.

    “They did advise us they’re going to be coordinating search efforts, which is good,” Cardoza said. “It’s an extra resource for our staff, it’s an extra set of eyes and ears.”
    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/...ce=most_viewed

    March 26 more @ link

    San Jose police are looking for stun gun-wielding man who attempted to kidnap a teenage girl Friday in broad daylight in the Willow Glen neighborhood.

    Police said a 16-year-old girl was approached by a man who suddenly attacked her with a stun gun-type weapon and attempted to drag her into his car.
    Tuesday, March 27, 2012

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...ng-teen/nLdmL/

    March 27 more @ link

    Hundreds of volunteers showed up in Morgan Hill Tuesday to lend a hand in the ongoing search for 15-year-old Sierra LaMar, who went missing a week and a half ago.

    The KlaasKids Foundation, an organization that provides search-and-rescue services for families of missing people, was on hand at Burnett Elementary School to manage the search.

    By 9 a.m., more than 200 people had registered to help look for Sierra and provide administrative support for the effort, KlaasKids founder Mark Klaas said.
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...144394955.html

    March 27 more @ link

    Marc Klaas was expecting a few dozen people at most to turn out to help his Klaas Kids Foundation search for missing Morgan Hill teenager Sierra LaMar. By 9 a.m. Tuesday there were 300 people standing in line; ready to brave the wet weather to search for the 15-year-old who has been missing since Friday March 16.

    Klaas, and all the organizers of a volunteer search effort were shocked by the turnout.

    NBC Bay Area reporter Marianne Favro said by noon, 563 people were registered to help out in the search; many of them had to wait for hours in line.
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/...h-lamar/nLdKr/

    March 27 more @ link

    The family of Sierra LaMar, the teenager missing from her Morgan Hill home for more than a week, is getting some help from two people who know all too well what it's like to have a family member vanish.

    Michael Le is part of the team. Last year a search volunteer found the body of his sister Michelle, a nursing student from Hayward.

    "It feels like my sister is missing again, it feels like I frantically want to find Sierra," said Le.
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...abducte/nLdxt/

    March 27 more @ link

    Detectives investigating the disappearance of 15-year-old Sierra LaMar now believe the Morgan Hill teenager was likely abducted, the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office announced Tuesday afternoon.

    After interviewing those who know her best, investigators believe it is highly unlikely that LaMar, who went missing a week and a half ago, ran away from home, sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Jose Cardoza said.

    The sheriff's office was asking local residents to report any suspicious behavior they observe in co-workers, neighbors or other community members.

    Such activity could include changing one's appearance, cleaning a vehicle in an extreme way, missing days of work, or showing an unusual interest in or avoidance of news reports on the case, Cardoza said.
    http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/det...ll-connections

    March 27 more @ link

    Sheriff’s Investigators now believe it’s highly unlikely that Sierra LaMar ran away from home and will begin concentrating their investigative efforts on the possibility that the missing Morgan Hill teen was involuntary taken from her residence, Sgt. Jose Cardoza of the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday afternoon.

    “That covers [ideas that] she was possibly abducted, possibly kidnapped, or she could of went to meet someone voluntarily and during the course was taken at that time,” he said.
    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/vid...gan-hill-teen/

    March 27 video @ link

    Reporter: It's day 12, and detectives are confident Sierra LaMar is not a runaway, but is involuntarily missing.

    Q: Is there some hesitation with using the word 'kidnapping' or 'abduction'?

    Sgt. Jose Cardoza: Not that there is hesitation, but we don't have anything to prove that or to confirm that at this point.

    Reporter: Investigators say call in if you notice anyone who has changed their appearance or acted strangely starting March 16th, the day Sierra disappeared. For example..

    Sgt. Jose Cardoza: Somebody who all of a sudden maybe had an exemplary work record, never called in sick, all of a sudden called in sick. Specifically the day Sierra went missing, and the days after that to follow.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BATI1NR2VL.DTL

    March 27 more @ link

    "We feel the keys to the resolution in this case are in our community," the sheriff's office said.

    Investigators said they ruled out the possibility that Sierra left on her own after interviews with her friends and family revealed that she had no history of running away and no family problems.
    http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/...9bb30f31a.html

    March 27 more @ link

    After conducting a number of organized, exhaustive searches conducted by area search-and-rescue officers, interviewing hundreds of people associated with Sierra, and following up on scores of leads, the sheriff’s office declared Tuesday, 11 days after the teen was reported missing, that it is “highly unlikely she ran away,” according to a press release Cardoza.

    “Sheriff's detectives are concentrating their investigative efforts on the possibility that Sierra LaMar was taken from the area of her residence and is an involuntary missing person,” Cardoza said.

    For the first few days of the investigation, investigators left open the possibility that Sierra ran away, even though no obvious evidence or her background specifically indicated such a scenario. The detectives were led to this conclusion after interviewing Sierra’s relatives and friends and completing other investigative efforts, Cardoza said.
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/video/#!/n...Lama/144538215

    March 27 video @ link

    Steve: I hope she's not..she's not far away, you know. As time goes by, if-if someone does have her, um, you know, the more time that goes by, more- the more urgent it gets.

    Reporter: The sense of urgency has brought out several hundred people to search for her. Many are neighbors, volunteering their time to help reunite Sierra with her family.

    Marlene: I just was truly taken by just, all these efforts, you know. And it's-it's definitely recognized. And, um, it's helping me and it's helping Sierra.

    http://www.kionrightnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=17271601

    March 27 video @ link

    Marlene: You hope that it's the other way, because you think the chances are increasing, but you know, um, but you know, I'm not giving up. I'm not giving up.

    Reporter: Tonight, Sierra's mother Marlene said she knew in her heart Sierra never ran away after she disappeared 11 days ago. Holding back tears, she said, it's your support that's keeping her going. Sierra's father Steve admits, her disappearance is now taking its toll.

    Steve: Lots of crying, you know. You wake up crying, go to sleep crying, that kind of thing. Worrying, wondering where she is, what's happening.

    Marlene: God forbid that this happens to anybody else. I never want it to happen. But, at least they know there is a world out there that truly cares.


    http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-...a-lamar-search

    March 27 more @ link

    Sierra's 21-year-old sister, Danielle LaMar, said she never believed Sierra ran away when she disappeared the morning of March 16.

    "Obviously, I would rather have her run away," Danielle LaMar said Tuesday. "That would mean she's at least not being held against her will."
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...144481855.html

    March 27 more @ link

    The family of Sierra LaMar, the teenager who went missing on March 16, announced today they have opened a fund to help pay for search and rescue efforts.


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    Originally Posted by LisaB
    Sorry if this has been covered, but I expected it was to eliminate the "pings" from the cell phone that would lead them in the direction the abductor took her. Throwing out the purse was probably just a precaution.

    Posted by houndstooth :
    If I am the perp, what would I do?
    I'd probably have her toss it in the rose bushes by the gate.
    Or somewhere along the street she lived on.
    I wouldn't drive even a mile with her phone.
    She could have 911 on speed dial!
    I wouldn't know.

    Just saying.

    My daughter used to lose her phone a lot while outside. We'd often find it by "being really quiet" and dialing it to listen for the ringing. I think the idea of disposing it right by the entrance of the driveway would have resulted in it being discovered as soon as a parent tried to call Sierra to find out where she was.. JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrainneDhu View Post
    I am convinced that this is a planned abduction rather than an opportunistic one. If it had happened by the bus stop, I could see an argument for opportunistic but with the trailing dog losing her scent at the end of her own driveway, I think this is planned.

    If so, then I think the perpetrator was comfortable and familiar in that area.

    I believe the perpetrator got rid of the smartphone and JC bag as quickly as possible to limit the amount of information LE could glean from them. I think the bag was tossed right away because of the risk that Sierra was carrying some type of GPS locator that had a geographical alert programmed into it. I doubt the perpetrator ever opened the bag; too much risk of leaving DNA and trace evidence.

    While it's tempting to think that a perp is taunting LE, I think that's actually relatively uncommon and very high risk behaviour.

    This does not seem to me to be a very high risk taking perpetrator because everything that is known to have been done has actually been pretty low risk.

    And if all this is so, then I believe Sierra's body will be found relatively nearby. There's a finite amount of territory that one person can become familiar and comfortable in.
    I can't see why her scent ending at the driveway rules out it being an opportunistic crime. Either way, her scent is going to be lost once she gets in the vehicle and the door is shut.
    But even if planned, that plan could have been formulated in less than a minute, if some predator was driving nearby and happened to see her standing at the bus stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaB View Post
    My daughter used to lose her phone a lot while outside. We'd often find it by "being really quiet" and dialing it to listen for the ringing. I think the idea of disposing it right by the entrance of the driveway would have resulted in it being discovered as soon as a parent tried to call Sierra to find out where she was.. JMO.
    Another awesome post.
    What more can I say?


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    90Nine~

    You were asking about the OF store on the other thread?
    I don't remember where I posted it now.

    I saw her tweet about plans with someone named "Peeezy" to go to OF (Odd Future) store in LA. This was on Mar. 14.

    I found a link to the place. On the link was where the store had a grand opening in LA
    back in November. Within a few minutes of this link being posted on WS, another of
    Sierra's Twitter friends, Tyler, the Creator posted a comment at the bottom of the page!

    He said something like, "Great, The OF is going to be open Friday!"

    Why wouldn't it be open Friday?
    It just seemed strange or oddly coincidental he would be posting the only comment on
    this article from almost 5 months ago.

    I remember the link as being found by just googling Odd Future Store Grand Opening in LA, and it being the one mentioning Golf Wang Pop-Ups, if I am not mistaken.

    Hope I can find where I posted the link before. Because when I looked for it this morning, and clicked the link it goes squirrely on me and redirects before I can get to the bottom to see the comments.

    For more on Tyler, the Creator, see his wiki page.

    Hope that helps.


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    This bee my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    I am just hoping the weather starts clearing here. It has been wet and dreay all morning.
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    I think the lack of evidence shows that this was a crime committed by someone with experience. It wasn't a sloppy abduction - clues weren't left at the abduction site.
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    search center for Sierra Lamar really needs bug spray. Searchers are getting eaten alive. Deliver bug spray to Burnett elementary school. 85 tilton road Morgan Hill CA! Put on your face book page, twitter, wherever you can to get the word out.







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    Quote Originally Posted by nutkin View Post
    I think the lack of evidence shows that this was a crime committed by someone with experience. It wasn't a sloppy abduction - clues weren't left at the abduction site.
    She may have gotten in the car willfully. The only evidence is the phone, the purse, and her online activitities. And if it was just random, then the online activities wouldn't mean much.

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    I was thining about this last night. All MOO.

    If Sierra texted at 7:11 and her friend texted her back, but, according to reports, Sierra didn't text back to her, that may mean something happened to her relatively quickly.

    Now, if she was having a friend pick her up to take her to school, wouldn't that friend have arrived later (closer to 8 am) since Sierra wouldn't have to wait for the bus?
    I know there is a bus schedule somewhere, but I don't know when school starts.

    What I'm thinking is that could a neighbour have been waiting for Sierra to leave for school and offered to drive her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shana View Post
    Is the surname spelled LaMar confirmed? If so, could the thread title be corrected?

    Sorry, I'm just a stickler for stuff like this! <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjsleuth83 View Post
    She may have gotten in the car willfully. The only evidence is the phone, the purse, and her online activitities. And if it was just random, then the online activities wouldn't mean much.
    I'm leaning towards the same scenario.

    Re: her online (twitter) activity I have to say I found it very disturbing..I know many have said this is the way most kids are today but seriously if that was my daughter saying all that CRAP I'd be appalled..And I'm no prude, far from it! I was a wild child teen (70s) myself but this just goes way beyond what we were like..I get times change but I can't compute "nice girl" with anything I saw from her or her friends

    I also think most of it is pointless..Unless I'm missing the point of tweeting VULGAR one-liners..If the point is to be 'kewl' that goes right over my head & I'd much rather my kid was a 'dork', 'geek', 'loser', whatever they call it today..I also have a hard time believing this goes on all over..I'm convinced it's more common in certain areas then in others..At least I hope like heck that's true.

    eta..Late to the discussion re: this 'twitter' issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taagean View Post
    I was thining about this last night. All MOO.

    If Sierra texted at 7:11 and her friend texted her back, but, according to reports, Sierra didn't text back to her, that may mean something happened to her relatively quickly.

    Now, if she was having a friend pick her up to take her to school, wouldn't that friend have arrived later (closer to 8 am) since Sierra wouldn't have to wait for the bus?
    I know there is a bus schedule somewhere, but I don't know when school starts.

    What I'm thinking is that could a neighbour have been waiting for Sierra to leave for school and offered to drive her?
    Yes,exactly...MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    I'm leaning towards the same scenario.

    Re: her online (twitter) activity I have to say I found it very disturbing..I know many have said this is the way most kids are today but seriously if that was my daughter saying all that CRAP I'd be appalled..And I'm no prude, far from it! I was a wild child teen (70s) myself but this just goes way beyond what we were like..I get times change but I can't compute "nice girl" with anything I saw from her or her friends

    I also think most of it is pointless..Unless I'm missing the point of tweeting VULGAR one-liners..If the point is to be 'kewl' that goes right over my head & I'd much rather my kid was a 'dork', 'geek', 'loser', whatever they call it today..I also have a hard time believing this goes on all over..I'm convinced it's more common in certain areas then in others..At least I hope like heck that's true.
    I agree with you. And I'll up the ante.
    On the Today Show, they were talking about how there are around 2,000 people who are reported missing every day.
    So there were on average 1,999 other people they could have chosen to profile. That Klaaskids could have helped in their case.

    And this case would languish in the backwaters with only the parents and and a overworked police force investigating, at least.

    I always wonder about which cases get national media attention and which ones don't.
    It seems to me this one was based on the "looks" of the victim.
    Being an all American teenaged cheerleader, which may or may not be true.

    Yet, it turns those ideas on their head when you read her "tweets".
    And then to top it off, you are forced to look the other way when
    an RSOs daughter is missing.
    You have to accept him as "a victim".
    Because this didn't happen to someone else's daughter, this time.

    There are a lot of things about this case that are there to make you uncomfortable. To make your world view turn upside down.
    To have her items missing both sound like product placement ads.
    To wit: The beloved Samsung Galaxy Android Phone and the equally
    beloved, Juicy Couture Bags.

    I don't know what this says about where we are as a society.
    But, it does make me wonder about the 1,199 kids and adults
    that I will never hear about, while this case is a media darling.

    I hope she is found safe.
    I hope they all are, whoever, wherever, they are.


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    And since I'm in for a penny, in for a pound today (double entendre),
    I just want to add to all the posters who say, "She's so beautiful, I hope they find
    her!" and other such remarks to ask themselves:
    Would you ever say, She's so homely, I hope they find her!
    She's so ordinary, I hope they find her!, or,
    She's just so plain, I hope they find her, about anyone who's ever missing?

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    Dont know if anyone saw this before. Somehow I missed it.

    She had an old twitter name called "@f4ggg0t " I dont think the link will work because its 'cached' but you should find it by searching on yahoo. The tone is different than her recent tweets.

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