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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Here are the 2 pieces of evidence found at TLM's home with Tara's name.







    http://www.newstalk1010.com/blog/raf...ence/home.aspx

    Well if you compare the writing to TLM's journal, you can see that it was not her that wrote the address and phone number on the cigarette package. TM testified that it wasn't her but no one asked her if it was JG did they? Perhaps he is going to testify later regarding evidence? So it was likely either him or Carol that wrote that. Probably Carol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquegirl View Post
    The media is now saying it was only hers now? Do you have a link, please?

    The explanation is simple. Either the media got it wrong the first time, or they're taking liberties with today's testimony and assuming/misinterpreting that there was only one pair of shoes being tossed.

    We got the original info from Tweets such as this:



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    McClintic testified that, as they drove away from the scene of Stafford's death, she took off her shoes and threw them out of the car window into a field along Sideroad 6. Police eventually found those shoes (picture 1).

    She also claims that she and Rafferty stopped at a convenience store in Cambridge that night, separately using the washroom to change their clothes. McClintic testifed that Rafferty gave her his white Puma shoes, basketball shorts and t-shirt to change into, packed into a blue gym bag. Police found items matching those descriptions in McClintic's home when they executed a search warrant after her arrest (pictures 2 and 3).


    http://www.newstalk1010.com/blog/raf...tryID=10360097



    So this is saying that she said it was only her shoes and that he gave her the Pumas that were found in her closet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post
    Maybe LE searched the dump after this witness said she threw it away and they found it there. Could be why they never went into great detail about it. This witness may be be on the stand later. Maybe there is more to come, we'll just have to wait and see. LE could have found the other one also and wouldn't really need to search the dump then. Here's hoping.
    I'm now thinking that TLM never said MR threw his shoes out too and the original tweet was wrong about that. So that's why the other shoe was not important. They were only looking for her shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsoul2 View Post
    He doesn't care about her shoes, he cared about his shoes. He doesn't care that she was there, he cares to prove that he wasn't. That didn't work out too well for him in the end but what this is screaming is TLM did tell the truth so far about what happened that day and that is what the prosecution is trying to rely to the jury. The whole defense is based on only her and not him, if they can show, with solid evidence that alot of what she said panned out and is true, than the jury will realize the defense theory is hogwash.
    Rest in peace Jeremy and Tim. Justice will prevail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquegirl View Post
    We know she couldn't have found them in March, so have to assume it was early April.



    She intended to give them to charity, but still had them in that shopping bag almost two months after finding them. What a lucky break for LE.

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    Metcalfe left the shoes in her garage for a week
    The officer was there May 30, 2009
    The shoes were found in May

    On one spring evening in 2009, cold enough for frost but with light still in the sky, she found two things that stood out among the usual fast food wrappers and beer bottles along Sideroad 6 off Hwy. 6 north of Guelph.

    By a lilac bush she saw one single shoe and a pair of running shoes

    The married mother of two teenagers threw out and recycled the litter, then left the shoes in her garage for a week."
    I wasn't sure what to do with them."

    On May 30, 2009, Metcalfe noticed police on her road and spoke to an officer. She'd heard police investigating Tori's death were looking for the backseat of a car, but the officer told her they weren't looking for that.

    As she started to walk away, the officer asked her about seeing any garbage along the road and Metcalfe mentioned the running shoes.

    When the officer asked her for a description, Metcalfe testified she replied, "I can do better than that."

    The shoes were sent to the Centre of Forensic Sciences for examination and photos of the shoes were sent to the OPP



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    Just FYI ... Obie Trice Cheers track listing at Wiki:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheers_(album)


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    It looks like it is a blue stripped collar dress shirt similar to one he is wearing in one of his other pics


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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    I can't find the old aerial shots of the recovery scene, but based on the above pic, it seems the immediate area was heavily wooded. I am wondering how far from the rock pile (or wherever the car was parked) that one would be able to see the silo that TLM remembered. In the map she drew (at the blog link that Dilbert provided above), it has TLM's hand drawn map and the silo is apparently a couple of fields away.

    Depending on where the silo is visible from, this could certainly be an indication/verification that it was in fact TLM who walked away from the car, and whatever that distance could have been.
    Because the crimes happened in early April, the deciduous trees would not have leaves yet and the foliage wouldn't be blocking the view so much. The coniferous trees would provide cover for the two as they disposed of Tori's body, as well as the car and the rock pile itself. TLM could likely see the silos from wherever she was that was further from those evergreen trees. JMO


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    Well, I'm disheartened that the bits of the car seat were never recovered. JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by paris_paris View Post
    They didn't search the garbage bins because they never found the correct car wash.

    There were dump searches in Salford, but that was before TLM confessed.
    This has always bugged me that she was able to remember alot of other details but not the carwash. How many carwashes could their be in the area they travelled?
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    I've gone back and read the tweets about the shoes, she says Rafferty told her they had to get rid of their shoes. He had extra pairs for both of them She tossed hers out and it seems like he tossed his own out, so perhaps they were on the other side of the road and that's why Lillian didn't see them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    Well, I'm disheartened that the bits of the car seat were never recovered. JMO
    Do we know that for sure Matou?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxfactor View Post
    I've gone back and read the tweets about the shoes, she says Rafferty told her they had to get rid of their shoes. He had extra pairs for both of them She tossed hers out and it seems like he tossed his own out, so perhaps they were on the other side of the road and that's why Lillian didn't see them.
    That makes sense. But wasn't she in the back seat cutting it up? Or was that after the car wash? the shoes were found on the east side of the highway or near the highway 6. Do we have a link to a map of this yet? JMO


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    On the other hand maybe he thought she threw his shoes out but she put them in that bag with the shorts and that's why she had 2 pairs of his shoes in her closet....hmmm
    ♥♥♥ In Memory of Tori ♥♥♥


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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    That makes sense. But wasn't she in the back seat cutting it up? Or was that after the car wash? the shoes were found on the east side of the highway or near the highway 6. Do we have a link to a map of this yet? JMO
    If I remember correctly she cut the seat after the car wash, they may have tried to clean the seat there but it was still stained. I hope LE has the actual blue handled knife she used.
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