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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkflamingo View Post
    Why not? He was acting suspiciously according to GZ, and was staring at all the houses as he was walking down the sidewalk. He had his hands at his waistband, as if he had a weapon. I would be scared for my life had I seen either of these men, quite frankly. How many burglaries had happened in this neighborhood? < mod snip > I am convinced that he was acting suspicious and GZ was doing what he thought was best to protect the neighborhood.
    You can't say he had stolen in the past, since the police could find no evidence that the Jewelry found in his backpack was stolen from anywhere.

    If you were walking in an unfamiliar neighborhood where all the units look alike trying to get home in the dark and in the rain, do you think that maybe you would look at the houses as you pass? Was he supposed to simply walk with his head down and not look at anything else while he was walking.

    I will agree that George Zimmerman did what he thought was best to protect the neighborhood when he called LE, it is everything that he did AFTER that which makes his actions criminal IMO JMHO and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imamaze View Post
    I have a question and its probably been posted somewhere but would appreciate if someone knows to post it again?

    Is GZ saying he was on his back on the ground fighting with Trayvon and Trayvon was on top of him when he was shot?

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    Yes he said TM was on top of him beaten him.....Dont have a link so will say IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    So what we know from whatever sources thus far

    GZ claims through his spokesfriends (I know not a real word) that he had a broken nose, and his head bashed into the concrete. There seems to be some official confirmation because a police report says that he had blood under his nose and blood on the back of his head

    But the video of him the night of the incident just does NOT support that there was a huge fight or even a minor scuffle, no injuries are apparent.

    If the Autopsy shows no damage to Trayvons knuckles, then were are we?

    We are left with just GZ's story that it was self defense.

    I can hear it now, there are going to be those who are going to swear on a stack that you can have a broken nose and it not swell, that you can have your head beaten against concrete and there not be blood or even bandages from where the EMT treated you, and you can hit someone hard enough to break their nose and have no damage at all to your hand ....IMO JMHO and stuff
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    From the Partial Report - Sanford Police Dept.
    Upon arrival Ofc. T. Smithhad a white male,later identified as George Zimmerman, in custody. Zimmerman was also the original caller in reference to suspicious person.
    I then noticed that there was, what appeared to be a black male wearing a gray sweater, blue jeans, and white/red sneakers laying face down on the ground.
    The black male had his hands underneath his body.

    http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf


    I see a few others have talked about this, but how is it possible for Trayvon to be on the ground with his hands underneath his body to have been on top of GZ, and shot in this position? Is it possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyinTexas View Post
    I agree, it looked white in one part of the video. A witness said they saw a man in a white t-shirt on top of another guy. So..... Could it be that GZ took actually facts about what happened, but reversed the participants, that it was really him beating Trayvon? His Dad said that TM told GZ he was going to die, maybe he said that to Trayvon. Just speculating.

    BBM...DARK RED My thoughts exactly... It make absolutely no sense for an unarmed teenager to tell a grown man who is following him and who also has a gun.."YOU ARE GOING TO DIE TONIGHT"...JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emeralgem View Post
    BBM...DARK RED My thoughts exactly... It make absolutely no sense for an unarmed teenager to tell a grown man who is following him and who also has a gun.."YOU ARE GOING TO DIE TONIGHT"...JMHO
    Did Trayvon know GZ was carrying a gun?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick1946 View Post
    I and I am sure others really miss the old Forensic Astrology forum and wonder what they'd come up with on this case. Here is something I found on line in this regard:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/astrolo...n-martin-case/

    I know there are a lot of skeptics out there and I am one of them when it comes to this stuff but found this interesting.
    This would have been interesting if she had Trayvon Martins Birthdate correct,
    But with the wrong BD for TM it only gives us some info on GZ and hat is all.
    I hope she will redo this correctly. I love reading this type of input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125 View Post
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...rtin-case.html

    Jose Baez, who successfully defended Casey Anthony, has turned prognosticator on the Trayvon Martin case.

    In an interview Wednesday with CNNís Anderson Cooper, Baez said: ďI just donít see a conviction down the line here. I really donít.Ē

    Baez added: ďI distinctly remember hearing on the 911 tape George Zimmerman saying, heís now walking towards me and he looks like he has got something around his waistband. So thereís some conflicting stories here. Ö Remember, this is a decision George Zimmerman had to make in a split second. And to go back and to second-guess it, the way weíre doing, itís a luxury that Mr. Zimmerman didnít have.Ē
    Definitely wants the job, in my opinion. But I don't think he would win this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    And doesn't GZ's mother work in the local court system?
    I remember reading she was used as a translator in the Court system. Should speak fluent Spanish and may be some other languages since she was from Peru IIRC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imamaze View Post
    Did Trayvon know GZ was carrying a gun?
    Not likely
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    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annalia View Post
    Could it be that their staunch defense is more intended to protect the HOA than GZ?

    JMHO
    Interesting point. I wonder what if any exposure the HOA has in this? Zimmerman claims he was running an errand when he encountered Trayvon so apparently he wasn't on "watch patrol" or whatever it is called.

    I also wonder what it will do to property values what with the shooting and a major celeb tweeting about an address there. What was he thinking anyway? Was he trying to incite violence, start a tour bus line, collect the $10K from the New Black Panthers? It wouldn't seem there was anything good that could have come from that tweet. IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by rotterdam View Post
    Well for good measure, you can also add "I am going to kill you" that per GZ's dad, Tray told GZ while giving him some apparent minor injuries. Combined together that could make a person fear for his life. His dad also added that GZ was trying to move the fight to the grass ,so his head would not be hitting the concrete pavement repeatedly.. And I guess that explains why Tray's body was not located in a spot closer to the concrete . My, all angles are covered.

    BBM..IMHO Only IF you buy into the lies and the BS being spewed to cover GZ's rear end...We need an arrest..Have they arrested him and charged him yet?JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyinTexas View Post
    Definitely wants the job, in my opinion. But I don't think he would win this one.
    JB should be kept at least 5 miles from this case.
    He can only bring unrest, and hate to this already charged situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyinTexas View Post
    Because of the all the collusion going on between the police and DA, and maybe the retired judge dad, I will be suspicious if we are told he had drugs in his system.
    So many HS/College kids nowadays do occasionally smoke pot and that stays in your system for several weeks. So I would not be surprised plus it could be the truth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imamaze View Post
    Did Trayvon know GZ was carrying a gun?
    I don't think there is any way to know this.


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