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    trial thread: 3/29/2012

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    the crown will present its case in chapters:

    Chapter 1: The day of the kidnapping. The surveillance video showing Rafferty driving up the street outside Tori's school and McClintic walking Tori up the street. Witnesses from and around Oliver Stephens public school will talk about seeing Tori.
    An identification officer will use photographs and maps to show the route from Woodstock to Guelph.
    Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, will testify about the frantic hours the family spent looking for Tori.

    Chapter 2: Terri-Lynne McClintic. "She was an essential part of all that happened," Gowdey said. "I expect her credibility will be a major issue in this case."

    Chapter 3: Guelph -- video surveillance and bank records detailing the events there.

    Chapter 4: the Mount Forest death scene, which the jury will visit. "It will be difficult to go to the very place where this happened, I know that, but understanding the crime scene is crucial to understanding the crime," Gowdey said. Photographs, some of them graphic, will be used to explain "exactly how the killing happened."
    "Unfortunately it is only through them that you can fully understand (the) evidence," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 5: Police interaction with Rafferty.

    Chapter 6: The searches of Rafferty and McClintic's residences and the evidence found.

    Chapter 7: The Honda Civic. What was found inside.

    Chapter 8: Rafferty's connection to the Mount Forest area.

    Chapter 9: Comments Rafferty made to friends after April 8. "He had some interesting things to say to other people about Terri-Lynne McClintic and about the kidnapping itself," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 10: The May 15 weekend and Rafferty's actions.

    Chapter 11: The BlackBerry. The BlackBerry allowed police to track his movements April 8 and after.

    Chapter 12: A recap of the surveillance video.
    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19463111.html

    Salem's warning from last week:
    Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.
    Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.
    We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.
    Thank you,
    Salem

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    I am not sure that there is court today? But this thread is for today either way... :-) Everyone post responsibly please.

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    Nope no court today, trial resumes tomorrow

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    Good Morning!

    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀

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    <modsnip>

    Is there anyone out there that thinks MR is not guilty??

    JMO
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 03-29-2012 at 10:36 AM. Reason: cannot discuss other posters please

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    I wish we knew what the court schedule would be for next week. I'm off work and wanted to take a drive down. I'd like to go on Thursday or Friday. Is there a way to know in advance?
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusedashell View Post
    <modsnip>
    Is there anyone out there that thinks MR is not guilty??

    JMO
    Is there a way to take a poll? Even anonymously so we can get a sense of how many on the forum think he is guilty vs. how many think he is not?

    If we can have a poll, can we also include an option such as guilty of a lesser charge or lesser charges?
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 03-29-2012 at 10:36 AM. Reason: snip of quoted post

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    I think the court should take advantage of being ahead of schedule and keep it that way instead of taking days off. Now next week it will only be a three day week because of good friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    I wish we knew what the court schedule would be for next week. I'm off work and wanted to take a drive down. I'd like to go on Thursday or Friday. Is there a way to know in advance?
    Well don't go Friday, it's Good Friday = no court

    If you wanted to take a drive down I would plan for Thursday maybe, I am sure we will hear tomorrow the schedule for next week though.

    I went once, first day of TLM's testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezbel View Post
    Well don't go Friday, it's Good Friday = no court

    If you wanted to take a drive down I would plan for Thursday maybe, I am sure we will hear tomorrow the schedule for next week though.

    I went once, first day of TLM's testimony.
    Thanks for the reminder. I forgot it was good Friday!! Duh!

    I'd have to leave Wednesday night...sleepover and attend Thursday, if court will be in session.
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Thanks for the reminder. I forgot it was good Friday!! Duh!

    I'd have to leave Wednesday night...sleepover and attend Thursday, if court will be in session.
    They will probably be going out to Mt Forest some point son too, but I think they should advise of next week's schedule tomorrow, then you can plan your trip. If you plan on going to the main courtroom, get there fairly early but if you don't mind sitting in the overflow room, it doesn't matter as you can go in and out of there anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusedashell View Post
    I think the court should take advantage of being ahead of schedule and keep it that way instead of taking days off. Now next week it will only be a three day week because of good friday
    I believe the reason for no court today (Thursday) is that the judge has a previous commitment. Also, the proceedings are going faster than anticipated and scheduled. Expert witnesses have been booked according to the schedule, who cannot bring their appearances forward because of their own schedules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezbel View Post
    Well don't go Friday, it's Good Friday = no court

    If you wanted to take a drive down I would plan for Thursday maybe, I am sure we will hear tomorrow the schedule for next week though.

    I went once, first day of TLM's testimony.
    Did you sit in the overflow room or in the main room? I can't remember if you posted here on that day, MR's demeanor, TLMs demeanor
    Take the road of truth or it will eventually be done for you

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    Whenever I see that quote referred to from MTR's facebook (Good things are coming my way) I think of dear dear Dr. Phil's quote, "So how are things working out for you now my friend?"
    As always, JMO

    Evil is; as evil does.


    Prayers for Jun Lin, his family and those that love him.
    Justice is patient, relentless in its pursuit and is on the march for Justin Lin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusedashell View Post
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    Is there anyone out there that thinks MR is not guilty??

    JMO
    I am not sure it matters a whole lot what I think, but based on the evidence presented thus far, and the theory that was intimated during TLM's cross examination, I believe I can conclude MR is guilty of some crimes..............such as hiding evidence, failing to report a crime........but do not have the same confidence in the main charges..........................yet.

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