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    17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Everybody - you need to calm down. You need to breathe. This thread has had so many alerts a team of mods cannot keep up.

    We understand it is a hot topic and everyone feels passionately about their side of the fence.

    When comparing this case to others - try to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. The major complaint in this case, that has caused it to be a case of national importance, is the fact that no one was arrested for the shooting. Comparing it to cases where the perp was arrested is comparing apples to oranges. Those cases don't make national news because LE did their jobs, investigated and arrested someone.

    Also, comparing it to cases where there was a trial is comparing apples to oranges - there has not even been an arrest here, so it does not compare to a case that was decided by a jury.

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    I'm giddy to find out who the guest is... even though I am not going to watch it myself. I took the television out of my office area after the verdict for you know who.
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    There was a 911 call where a lady kept telling Jeremy to get in here and you hear him yell at the woman to tell them to get a cop here fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    There was a 911 call where a lady kept telling Jeremy to get in here and you hear him yell at the woman to tell them to get a cop here fast.
    YES!! That was the call where we heard the gunshot so clearly! His name was Jeremy!

    ETA: Please, please tell me what he says. I really don't want to take my laptop to the living room and watch it? I love my office area. So peaceful!
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    Trayvon Martin: Anderson Cooper talks to new eyewitness tonight

    SENTINEL STAFF WRITER
    CNN's Anderson Cooper has a guest tonight who should interest anyone following the Trayvon Martin saga. "Anderson Cooper 360" described the guest as a "new eyewitness who has never told their story and actually saw the shooting take place." The...

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic...00001273.topic

    For the new thread.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    I just hope by "new" they mean someone media has not talked to but LE has.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Trayvon Martin: Anderson Cooper talks to new eyewitness tonight

    SENTINEL STAFF WRITER
    CNN's Anderson Cooper has a guest tonight who should interest anyone following the Trayvon Martin saga. "Anderson Cooper 360" described the guest as a "new eyewitness who has never told their story and actually saw the shooting take place." The...

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic...00001273.topic

    For the new thread.
    Could this be the counter-point we were talking about last night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    I just hope by "new" they mean someone media has not talked to but LE has.
    If it is Jeremy, then he is not a new witness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I'm giddy to find out who the guest is... even though I am not going to watch it myself. I took the television out of my office area after the verdict for you know who.
    There's always another who will need justice. As long as man walks this earth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    If it is Jeremy, then he is not a new witness.
    Has he talked to the media before?
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    There's always another who will need justice. As long as man walks this earth.

    If I kept my television in this room I would never get anything done! Ever! This website takes enough of my time when I get interested in a case.

    I did give away the television sets though. I met a guy in line at the Good Will drop off and Good Will doesn't take televisions anymore, so I asked him if he wanted it. He took it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Has he talked to the media before?
    No, but he was in the background of one of the 911 calls. His girlfriend/sister/mother kept telling him to get inside. So he had to have talked to LE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    I just hope by "new" they mean someone media has not talked to but LE has.
    More, I hope if he has talked to LE he was talking to state or federal officers rather than Zimmerman's accomplices at the local PD (in my opinion).
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    This "witness" isn't making much sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    No, but he was in the background of one of the 911 calls. His girlfriend/sister/mother kept telling him to get inside. So he had to have talked to LE.
    Then he could still be the new witness....new meaning the media has not talked to him before.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    I don't even know what time Anderson Cooper starts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    This "witness" isn't making much sense.
    Why? What is he saying?
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    The witness on AC360:

    He heard voices with window closed, then saw the two people on the ground...

    He could hear them clearly, because they were loud...he thought who would be walking the dog in the rain. He heard the voices again and opened his window. He couldn't hear the words, only the noises. The first time he heard and second time was a gap of time. They kept on arguing...he heard a scream...

    Two men on the grass, one on top of each other...scuffling. Then he heard the gunshot...says there was more than one pop, not sure if it was an echo...The person on top was the larger man...the person on bottom was a boy. Both people were on the ground when the shot went off, one on top of the other...He couldn't see the person underneath at the time of the shooting. He can't really say the person on top was the shooter for sure. Trayvon was laying face down when Zimmerman got up.

    He saw 2 different struggles in the same location. It was grass. There is sidewalk, but the men were closer to the area that was all grass.

    After the shot, the man got up then he walked toward where the man was. He didn't look hurt, just seemed worried...hand was on forehead. Another person with a flashlight showed up...He didn't see any blood from the side view...

    These are just my notes, not to be taken as fact until a transcript is available...When I say the men, I'm obviously talking about those two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I don't even know what time Anderson Cooper starts?
    The witness is talking right now.

    They keep saying that they saw the shot, but are very hazy about who was where. They don't seem to want to say where Zimmerman got up from; it seems like that would be fairly evident if they were watching.

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    I can't believe that NO ONE would effing go outside and find out why someone was yelling help help out there. I mean come on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiHater View Post
    The witness on AC360:

    He heard voices with window closed, then saw the two people on the ground...

    He could hear them clearly, because they were loud...he thought who would be walking the dog in the rain. He heard the voices again and opened his window. He couldn't hear the words, only the noises. The first time he heard and second time was a gap of time. They kept on arguing...he heard a scream...

    Two men on the grass, one on top of each other...scuffling. Then he heard the gunshot...says there was more than one pop, not sure if it was an echo...The person on top was the larger man...the person on bottom was a boy. Both people were on the ground when the shot went off, one on top of the other...He couldn't see the person underneath at the time of the shooting. He can't really say the person on top was the shooter for sure. Trayvon was laying face down when Zimmerman got up.

    He saw 2 different struggles in the same location. It was grass. There is sidewalk, but the men were closer to the area that was all grass.

    After the shot, the man got up then he walked toward where the man was. He didn't look hurt, just seemed worried...hand was on forehead. Another person with a flashlight showed up...He didn't see any blood from the side view...

    These are just my notes, not to be taken as fact until a transcript is available...When I say the men, I'm obviously talking about those two.
    BBM

    That is not what the witness said. The witness was actually very hesitant to say who was where, even though it seems like it should have been obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    BBM

    That is not what the witness said. The witness was actually very hesitant to say who was where, even though it seems like it should have been obvious.
    That is what I heard, and that is exactly why I said these are my notes and not to be taken as fact until there is a transcript. I'm not going to argue with you about it.

    ETA: Of everything I wrote, I got one detail wrong? Hmmmmmm....
    Last edited by HiHater; 03-29-2012 at 08:16 PM. Reason: ETA
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    I personally think that both Zimmerman and Trayvon switched being on top of one another. That's what I think of when I hear the word "wrestling." I had the cheerlead for that awful sport in High School. Never understood it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiHater View Post
    That is what I heard, and that is exactly why I said these are my notes and not to be taken as fact until there is a transcript. I'm not going to argue with you about it.
    And I'm saying what I heard. No need to get all defensive about it.

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