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    Quote Originally Posted by joypath View Post
    Hi Wise! He claimed to be older.....and less honest than GZ, all this on national TV, no less!
    less honest? He actually said that? Wow.

    So he (bro) believes the 911 tape was altered? Yea right. Funny that I heard it on the one right from SPD's own website. So, maybe SPD altered it? For what reason? GMAB.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    You are correct. And that's what is worrying me about all these witnesses. IF GZ is arrested and charged and is found by a court of law to be guilty of whatever - manslaughter, negligent homicide, whatever - then TM's family has a very good chance at winning a civil suit against the HOA.

    BUT (and this is a big one)

    If GZ is found to be not guilty by reason of self defense - does that negate any civil suit against the HOA?

    I know that under Stand Your Ground - if that law applies then the victim's family have no grounds for a civil suit but I'm not sure about the self-defense.

    I guess, what I'm saying is that if the witnesses realize the huge liability that's hanging over their heads - then that might be motivation to possibly re-think what you actually saw or heard. KWIM?
    LOL that just crossed my mind and I went back and found this post.


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    George Zimmerman lost job as party security guard for being too aggressive, ex-co-worker says

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qZVk55GH
    If there's hink....there must be stink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    Dang this thought just crossed my mind.

    With this potential lawsuit against the HOA, how honest will the witnesses be if they are homeowners?
    Exactly what I was getting at. I sure hope all witness statements were recorded and also transcribed and signed by the witness with a notary. This part (witnesses) could become a very sticky wicket.


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    “Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qZVzurnl
    If there's hink....there must be stink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    Exactly what I was getting at. I sure hope all witness statements were recorded and also transcribed and signed by the witness with a notary. This part (witnesses) could become a very sticky wicket.


    JMHO
    That's really depressing? I would hope that wouldn't happen? There is so many more important things in life then money? Truth, for one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    George Zimmerman lost job as party security guard for being too aggressive, ex-co-worker says

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qZVk55GH
    Interesting. From the link:
    The source said Zimmerman, who made between $50 and $100 a night, was let go in 2005.
    “He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    SANFORD, Fla. – Further doubt emerged Thursday over the circumstances of Florida teen Trayvon Martin's murder, as the mother of a young witness said her son was "pressured" by police and another onlooker cast doubt on killer George Zimmerman's claims.


    An unnamed witness speaking on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" said the entirety of the scuffle he saw between the two took place on grass, challenging Zimmerman's claim that Martin had smashed his head against a sidewalk after punching him in the face -- causing him to shoot the 17-year-old dead in self-defense.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/29...#ixzz1qZS1G2dp
    seems to be the same guy....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySYPMy1Ejw

    and it one picture he seems to be pointing to where it happen right next to the sidewalk jmo......doesn't sound like he could see much anyway he was explain it was really dark, no moonlight and only 1 porch light....


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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    “Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qZVzurnl


    Kind of like having "fed up issues?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulessa View Post
    Rough, very rough day today. Jury selection starts Monday, the trial will follow immediately. Thanks for asking LC.
    Tulessa... would you mind pointing me to your brother's thread? I know it's listed in your sig but I have have sig lines turned off.

    I'm a bit ashamed that I haven't followed his case much. I was so distracted with the 'other' case. And then so distraught over the outcome that I checked out for a while. But know that I have you in my thoughts and prayers.


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    If he was in his car don't you usually put the gun in the glove box? Here is the F.S. for carrying a concealed weapon. I know he did have a permit. What made him get out of the car with the gun?

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...s/0790.06.html

    This is a continuation of the statute.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/.../0790.053.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    George Zimmerman lost job as party security guard for being too aggressive, ex-co-worker says

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qZVk55GH
    That was back in 2005, seven years ago and he has not been in trouble since.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyme & Reason View Post
    His little brother didn't seem to think he was speaking clearly. He called it out of breath utterances.
    Except what I'm talking about occurred after the dispatcher suggested they didn't need him to follow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    Dang this thought just crossed my mind.

    With this potential lawsuit against the HOA, how honest will the witnesses be if they are homeowners?

    This is gonna be ugly isn't it ? I wonder how many of the homeowners have even thought of this ? Specifically the ones that have come out and talked to the media already ?


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