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    WA - Wilkeson, WhtFem UP5691, 30-50, in woods, PLU sweatshirt, Oct'97

    The Doe Network:
    922UFWA
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/922ufwa.html
    NamUs UP Case 5691 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5691

    Unidentified Female

    The victim was discovered on October 13, 1997 in Wilkeson, Pierce County, Washington.
    Estimated Date of Death: 1986-1995.
    State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton.
    One or more limb and one or both hands not recovered.
    Cause and Manner of Death: Unknown.

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated Age: 27-50 years old.
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2" to 5'6" and unknown weight.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair and unknown eye color. Unknown race.
    Clothing: "Russell" dark blue long sleeved sweat shirt with a logo of Pacific Lutheran University with basketball logo and "LUTES", "Union Bay" blue jeans (size 7),
    "Reebok" white tennis shoes with yellow & green trim (size 4.5)
    Dentals: X-rays and photographs are available. This individual was treated for a mandibular symphysis fracture and there is an inter osseous wire at the mandibular
    inferior border. This individual may have worn a mandibular removable partial denture. Dental data in NDIR.
    DNA: Sample available - Not yet submitted.
    Fingerprints: Not available.

    Case History
    The victim was found by a person walking through the woods near mile post 9 on Gale Creek Road and Quinnon Extension Road in Wilkeson, Washington, on October 13, 1997.
    Last edited by OkieGranny; 06-27-2016 at 05:10 AM. Reason: updated Doe link

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    This newly added NamUs MP fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe:

    Ramona Lynn Fey
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14348/44


    * Age (39) is good (UID Est. 27-50)
    * Height (5'5") is good (UID Est. 5'4")
    * Hair Color (Brown) is good.
    * Timeframe (DLC 17-Jul-95 to 13-Oct-97 or a little over 2 years) is a little under the PM interval (about 5 years), but not completely out of line.
    * Location - She was last seen in Ashford, which is about 60 miles by highway from Wilkeson, but more like about 25 miles if walking through the woods.

    Also, the UID was wearing a sweatshirt with a Pacific Lutheran University logo on it. Ramona's hometown of Spanaway WA is only about 3-4 miles from the PLU campus (in Parkland WA).

    The big question is dentals and whether she had a history of a broken jaw. The UID was treated for a fractured jaw and had a "inter osseous wire at the mandibular inferior border" to treat that fracture, and also might have had a lower partial denture.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-10-2012 at 05:43 PM.

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    Something in her profile struck me as odd. The shoes that were found on her are reported as size 4.5. I believe that that would be a youth size shoe. She would have to be a very small woman to have a shoe size that small.

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    boys shoe size 4 1/2 = womens size 6 1/2 shoe.
    "Wherever she went, including here, it was against her better judgment."~ Dot Parker

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherBearSTL View Post
    Something in her profile struck me as odd. The shoes that were found on her are reported as size 4.5. I believe that that would be a youth size shoe. She would have to be a very small woman to have a shoe size that small.

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    I noticed that too -- 4 1/2 is small -- I wonder if it is sizing for the UK (my size 9 shoes say that they a size 6 in the UK) or another international location.

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    Susan Marable has been in NamUs for quite awhile, but they just added a photo.



    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20410/0

    Look at her chin. She has a small scar at the midline, and her chin appears to be mis-shaped.

    Jane Doe UP5691 is described as having:

    Surgical wiring in mandible to left of midline
    And BTW,
    * Her Age (34-35) is solidly within the 30-50 Age estimate
    * The 6-year timeframe (From 21-Apr-91 to 13-Oct-97) is pretty close to the 5-year PM interval.
    * The distance from Yakima WA to Wilkeson WA is about 120 miles.
    * Her height (60-62 inches) is a little low compared to the 65 inch estimate of UP5691. (62-66 inches according to DoeNet).
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-08-2014 at 01:47 AM.

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    Janet Franson says that they have dentals on both the MP and UP, so she is forwarding it to the Forensic Odontologist for a "look-see".

    Incidentally, if anyone wants to contact her on any other matters, she will be unavailable until July 17th. She is moving to Texas from Wyoming.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-08-2014 at 06:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Janet Franson says that they have dentals on both the MP and UP, so she is forwarding it to the Forensic Odontologist for a "look-see".

    Incidentally, if anyone wants to contact her on any other matters, she will be unavailable until July 17th. She is moving to Texas from Wyoming.
    Just got word back from Janet Franson. The FO says that this Jane Doe is not Susan Marable.

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    She's now got a regular Doenet entry, not a hot case: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/922ufwa.html

    "Lutes," by the way -- the text on her jacket -- is the name of the Pacific Lutheran sports teams.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Just got word back from Janet Franson. The FO says that this Jane Doe is not Susan Marable.
    While they had this Jane Doe on their front burner, I figured I might as well ask them to check out Ramona Fey, as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tamar View Post
    boys shoe size 4 1/2 = womens size 6 1/2 shoe.
    I'm a few inches shorter than the UI and can wear anything between a 4 in kids and a 7 in women's. You can save a lot of money by shopping in the kids section!

    Current exclusions:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Diane Leslie Reeves 1966 Washington
    Katya Lyne 1981 Washington
    Michelle Maitland 1966 Washington
    Susan Marable 1956 Washington

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    Doe Network updated recently with reconstruction photos:


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/922ufwa.html
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    Never heard of this one. I live in the county.
    Sumter County's Mystery Couple - Facebook page - Websleuths thread
    Arroyo Grande Jane Doe - Facebook page - Websleuths thread
    Buckskin Girl - Facebook page - Websleuths thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener1850 View Post
    Doe Network updated recently with reconstruction photos:


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/922ufwa.html
    I don't know if it's just the recon but she looks very unique. In the way that if you saw her missing flyer there would be no doubt it was her. IMO


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    Updated ruleouts from her Namus https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5691


    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

    Diane Leslie Reeves 1966 Washington
    Katya Lyne 1981 Washington
    Michelle Maitland 1966 Washington
    Susan Marable 1956 Washington
    Julie Weflen 1958 Washington

    She has both dentals and DNA, so I presume Ramona Fey is a ruleout by default.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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