03-30-2012, 02:27 PM #1
WA - Wilkeson, WhtFem UP5691, 30-50, in woods, PLU sweatshirt, Oct'97
The Doe Network:
NamUs UP Case 5691 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5691
The victim was discovered on October 13, 1997 in Wilkeson, Pierce County, Washington.
Estimated Date of Death: 1986-1995.
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton.
One or more limb and one or both hands not recovered.
Cause and Manner of Death: Unknown.
Estimated Age: 27-50 years old.
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2" to 5'6" and unknown weight.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair and unknown eye color. Unknown race.
Clothing: "Russell" dark blue long sleeved sweat shirt with a logo of Pacific Lutheran University with basketball logo and "LUTES", "Union Bay" blue jeans (size 7),
"Reebok" white tennis shoes with yellow & green trim (size 4.5)
Dentals: X-rays and photographs are available. This individual was treated for a mandibular symphysis fracture and there is an inter osseous wire at the mandibular
inferior border. This individual may have worn a mandibular removable partial denture. Dental data in NDIR.
DNA: Sample available - Not yet submitted.
Fingerprints: Not available.
The victim was found by a person walking through the woods near mile post 9 on Gale Creek Road and Quinnon Extension Road in Wilkeson, Washington, on October 13, 1997.
Last edited by OkieGranny; 06-27-2016 at 05:10 AM. Reason: updated Doe link
03-30-2012, 02:27 PM #2
This newly added NamUs MP fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe:
Ramona Lynn Fey
* Age (39) is good (UID Est. 27-50)
* Height (5'5") is good (UID Est. 5'4")
* Hair Color (Brown) is good.
* Timeframe (DLC 17-Jul-95 to 13-Oct-97 or a little over 2 years) is a little under the PM interval (about 5 years), but not completely out of line.
* Location - She was last seen in Ashford, which is about 60 miles by highway from Wilkeson, but more like about 25 miles if walking through the woods.
Also, the UID was wearing a sweatshirt with a Pacific Lutheran University logo on it. Ramona's hometown of Spanaway WA is only about 3-4 miles from the PLU campus (in Parkland WA).
The big question is dentals and whether she had a history of a broken jaw. The UID was treated for a fractured jaw and had a "inter osseous wire at the mandibular inferior border" to treat that fracture, and also might have had a lower partial denture.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-10-2012 at 05:43 PM.
03-30-2012, 05:32 PM #3Registered User
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Something in her profile struck me as odd. The shoes that were found on her are reported as size 4.5. I believe that that would be a youth size shoe. She would have to be a very small woman to have a shoe size that small.
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03-30-2012, 05:55 PM #4Registered User
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boys shoe size 4 1/2 = womens size 6 1/2 shoe."Wherever she went, including here, it was against her better judgment."~ Dot Parker
03-30-2012, 07:08 PM #5
07-08-2014, 01:24 AM #6
Susan Marable has been in NamUs for quite awhile, but they just added a photo.
Look at her chin. She has a small scar at the midline, and her chin appears to be mis-shaped.
Jane Doe UP5691 is described as having:
Surgical wiring in mandible to left of midline
* Her Age (34-35) is solidly within the 30-50 Age estimate
* The 6-year timeframe (From 21-Apr-91 to 13-Oct-97) is pretty close to the 5-year PM interval.
* The distance from Yakima WA to Wilkeson WA is about 120 miles.
* Her height (60-62 inches) is a little low compared to the 65 inch estimate of UP5691. (62-66 inches according to DoeNet).
Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-08-2014 at 01:47 AM.
07-08-2014, 02:03 PM #7
Janet Franson says that they have dentals on both the MP and UP, so she is forwarding it to the Forensic Odontologist for a "look-see".
Incidentally, if anyone wants to contact her on any other matters, she will be unavailable until July 17th. She is moving to Texas from Wyoming.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 07-08-2014 at 06:20 PM.
07-08-2014, 06:19 PM #8
07-08-2014, 06:28 PM #9There but for the grace of God go I
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She's now got a regular Doenet entry, not a hot case: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/922ufwa.html
"Lutes," by the way -- the text on her jacket -- is the name of the Pacific Lutheran sports teams.Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)
07-08-2014, 06:35 PM #10
02-09-2016, 04:27 PM #11Registered User
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First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Diane Leslie Reeves 1966 Washington
Katya Lyne 1981 Washington
Michelle Maitland 1966 Washington
Susan Marable 1956 Washington
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