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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelWings444 View Post
    Trying to catch up here, was caught up last night.

    But, if we are to believe Trayvon was on TOP of Zimmerman, and Zimmerman shot Trayvon at a "very close range", Zimmerman would have blood spatter ALL over his clothes and body.

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    It really depends on where the bullet went in how much blood was there. I still wonder if they bagged GM shirt and jacket at the scene not to contaminate them.He might of had a shirt and jacket in his truck.If he had blood all over him would they want that all over the patrol car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tambo View Post
    I'm trying to figure out why the marks are on the top of his head, that doesn't make sense to me....he would have had to have had his head tilted backwards in a very weird position. If those were open gashes there would be blood everywhere.

    My son got knocked down on cement stairs in junior high and hit his head, the actual open injury was the size of a pencil tip, and there was blood everywhere all the kids were screaming and thought he was going to die...The doc cleaned up (with I might add, that brown liquid antiseptic they use) and sent us on our way..I might add, it bleed for a long time at least 45 minutes...

    I think head wounds bleed alot.

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    I noticed that too. The bump on his head seems to be more towards the top of his head. Almost like he ran into something with his head. If he was bashing his head into the concrete i would expect the gashes to be more towards the back of the head. IDK. I guess anything is possible


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaTo4 View Post
    Oh sure. He has a couple of "welts" on the top-back of his head from having Trayvon continuously slam his head into concrete for almost a full minute.

    Pfffffft


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    When I was attacked and had my head repeatedly slammed into a tile floor, there was no visible evidence to the appearance of my skull/scalp. I could feel the lumps, and they hurt, but they weren't visible. All of the visible damage was to the left side (and front) of my face where I had been repeatedly punched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveLaughLuv View Post
    I have my doubts those injuries were caused by Trayvon..I believe he might have done it to himself to give him the stance of fear?

    The funeral director saw nothing on Trayvon to suggest he'd been in a fight..so, I do have my suspicious that those injuries might be self inflicted..He appears to be that kind a guy...
    There were eyewitnesses on the scene seconds after the gunshot. How was he able to put gashes on the back of his head at that point?


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    Quote Originally Posted by belle3 View Post
    I noticed that too. The bump on his head seems to be more towards the top of his head. Almost like he ran into something with his head. If he was bashing his head into the concrete i would expect the gashes to be more towards the back of the head. IDK. I guess anything is possible
    Interesting. IMO, that seems to support GZ's claim that he was initially attacked from behind.
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    I think many of us are not surprised that Z has some injuries....I personally was waffling between a big struggle up to nothing at all. So he has some injuries. And......? It still does not support either direction's story IMO. It can still go either way. It's just another piece, just like the voice analysis is another piece. Until more comes out, we are still back where we were before.

    I will say that, so far, it does not support Z's camp's story of the extent of his injuries IMO. Like I said, it can still go either way.
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    SANFORD, Fla. — Once again, a river of protest raged through Sanford this weekend to demand justice in the name of an unarmed black teenager shot dead. It gathered strength in front of the historic Crooms Academy, the first high school for black students in Seminole County; surged through the streets; and formed a flood of grief and outrage just outside the Sanford Police Department.

    Once again, thousands chanted the name of Trayvon Martin, 17, the youth killed with one bullet while returning to a home in a gated community where he was a guest. Once again, they cried for the arrest of George Zimmerman, 28, the neighborhood watch coordinator who has claimed self-defense under a Florida law with the assertive name Stand Your Ground.

    With five weeks’ passage, the fateful encounter between a black youth who wanted to go to college and a Hispanic man who wanted to be a judge has polarized the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gxm View Post
    Interesting. IMO, that seems to support GZ's claim that he was initially attacked from behind.
    How? It could support any host of theories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaTo4 View Post


    Yes, I believe anyone can receive a fair trial. How many people do you think follow all the details the WebSleuthers do?

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    If it gets to a trial,How can it possible be fair? I am sure just about everyone in FL is aware of this case.It is not everyday towns get thousands of people bussed into town.< mod snip> because they still have not arrested GZ. IMO Finding 12 people with no bias would be near impossible JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcox View Post
    He told an Orlando news station that George was reaching for his cellphone when Trayvon punched him. But, in a later interview with The New York Times, he said that he was unsure whether his son made that movement and that he might have conflated news media reports with what he thought his son may have told him.

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    Actually, this is as close as anyone has come to articulating how I think this may have gone.

    TM finally stops running and trying to evade the stranger following him and confronts GZ. GZ reaches for his cell. TM sees GZ has a gun, holstered but a gun nonetheless. TM freaks out, and in reasonable fear for his life, throws a punch or a shove and tries to get away from the strange gun carrying stalker. GZ has now been assaulted by this suspicious looking A**hole and this one, is NOT getting away, now he feels justified in detaining and holding TM til the already dispatched units arrive. Struggle then ensues, tragic shooting follows.

    I am very curious as to why RZ is backpedalling on this version of events. It actually makes a lot of sense if it happened that way.

    Perhaps because that would show TM in a light of being the one who was "standing his ground"

    Just some thoughts.
    RZ was not there. IMO, nothing that he says about the confrontation that led to TM's death will be admissible at trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaTo4 View Post
    Yup, you're right according to the "shoot first ask questions later" law.

    However, that's not the point. The point is the entire Zimmerman family got on the TV and LIED.

    Junior said that George was almost unconscious - near being permanently paralyzed -- was bleeding profusely -- had a broken nose, etc., and he was SURE that if George hadn't killed Trayvon, Trayvon would have definitely killed George.

    Daddy Zimmerman said that Trayvon kept smacking George's head into the sidewalk for almost a full minute.

    Try watching you computer's clock and see how long a minute is to have your head constantly being slammed into concrete.

    You suppose anyone but George could come out of a brutal beating like that with a couple of "WELTS" on his head ?

    Jurors will be instructed that if they believe anyone is lying about one thing they can disregard EVERYTHING that witness testifies to -- including George.

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    And the Martin Family has not? they have lied too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Finklestein View Post
    What evidence is there? Just because it didn't go the way some people think it should have is not evidence of wrongdoing. Can you point to any evidence of corruption?
    LIES about what happened that night told to Trayvon's parents by LE...JMHO..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelWings444 View Post
    Trying to catch up here, was caught up last night.

    But, if we are to believe Trayvon was on TOP of Zimmerman, and Zimmerman shot Trayvon at a "very close range", Zimmerman would have blood spatter ALL over his clothes and body.

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    NOt necessarily. I saw an interview on MSNBC and a forensics examiner said that gunshot wounds close up in the chest DO NOT splatter, not like seen in the movies. He said the blood would be coming out the backside of the wound,and not spraying up and outward onto the shooter. DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THAT?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkflamingo View Post
    It looks awfully bad from such a big distance. It's huge. I can understand fearing my life like that. He shouldn't have shot to kill but does anyone know how experienced GZ was with a gun? Like did he go to the range often?
    Don't know. I know in Louisiana to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon one must go to classes. I checked on this when the Baton Rouge serial killer was on the loose.

    I would like to know how long GZ had his gun?


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    Yes I am sure having a daddy as a Judge might help,if he was a Judge in the same State and not retired for 10 yrs.Very few would give up their own careers to cover for someone else s son JMO.
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