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    17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #16

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    Clairfication on WS stance regarding the "victim friendly" issue.

    I had a discussion with the owners about how we were to deal with this. This is what I was advised:

    At this point in the investigation we don't KNOW exactly who ALL the victims are now. We KNOW that Trayvon is a victim, because he is dead. However, news breaks and new leaks come forth everyday and it is still unclear whether Zimmerman was a victim of any violence. Until more verifiable FACTS are available, WS has chosen to err on the side of treating both the confirmed (Trayvon) AND potential (Zimmerman) victim, both as victims.

    Like I said, that may change after we have more verifiable information

    Hope that helps clear this up.

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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...6.story?page=1

    Tracy Martin had been looking for his son Trayvon since the night before.

    An attorney herself, she knew whom to call: Benjamin Crump, the state's best-known civil rights attorney, based in Tallahassee. Crump and law partner Daryl Parks had previously gained renown representing the family of a black teenager who died in a boot-camp-style youth detention center in 2006, winning the boy's family $7.2 million in damages from the state of Florida and Bay County.

    Now Crump and Jackson needed a media strategy. On March 5, Jackson brought in Ryan Julison, a publicist who had worked with her on a number of high-profile cases. After speaking with Tracy Martin, Julison said he also took the job for free and went to work pitching the story to national media.

    Crump knew from his experience on the boot-camp case that publicity could force officials to act, but it would require persuading two people who had never stood before a television camera to withstand the spotlight.

    "I got on the phone with Tracy Martin and I told him, €˜It's not going to be any fun, but this is the only way to find justice,'" Julison said. "You are going to have to bare your soul and express your emotions and your inner grief." Martin and Fulton agreed. There was only one problem. At first, the media weren't interested. Julison pitched the story to a long list of media contacts.

    Eventually, on March 7, Reuters published a story titled "Family of Florida Boy Killed by Neighborhood Watch Seeks Arrest." The next day, CBS News aired a segment on "This Morning," and by 10 a.m. a crowd of reporters gathered at Natalie Jackson's law office for a news conference with Ben Crump and Tracy Martin. A media firestorm had begun.

    The article is three pages long.

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    I'm sure if you would ask Trayvon's parents if they would like their son back or a million dollars... they would pick their son.

    ETA: If they just wanted money, they would quietly sue the HOA and Zimmerman. Instead they are reaching out to any and everyone to help them get Justice for their son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I'm sure if you would ask Trayvon's parents if they would like their son back or a million dollars... they would pick their son.

    ETA: If they just wanted money, they would quietly sue the HOA and Zimmerman. Instead they are reaching out to any and everyone to help them get Justice for their son.

    I agree, but now it looks like they will get a few million by the time they are done with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I'm sure if you would ask Trayvon's parents if they would like their son back or a million dollars... they would pick their son.

    ETA: If they just wanted money, they would quietly sue the HOA and Zimmerman. Instead they are reaching out to any and everyone to help them get Justice for their son.

    If they wanted money they would have hired Jose. jmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    I agree, but now it looks like they will get a few million by the time they are done with it all.
    Yes, I am sure they will do good things with that money too. Their children are going to need counseling. They are going to need counseling. I have a feeling we will hear about Trayvon's parents for years to come doing good things for their community. They seem like lovely people who have had to endure what no parent ever should have to endure. I do not believe they are going to allow Trayvon's death to be in vain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    I agree, but now it looks like they will get a few million by the time they are done with this.
    Well, people do buy insurance for that very reason. If they want to file a wrongful death suit, I say they are entitled. Or do I have that all wrong because TM was on suspension from school that night???? jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvmua View Post
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...6.story?page=1

    Tracy Martin had been looking for his son Trayvon since the night before.An attorney herself, she knew whom to call: Benjamin Crump, the state's best-known civil rights attorney, based in Tallahassee. Crump and law partner Daryl Parks had previously gained renown representing the family of a black teenager who died in a boot-camp-style youth detention center in 2006, winning the boy's family $7.2 million in damages from the state of Florida and Bay County.

    Now Crump and Jackson needed a media strategy. On March 5, Jackson brought in Ryan Julison, a publicist who had worked with her on a number of high-profile cases. After speaking with Tracy Martin, Julison said he also took the job for free and went to work pitching the story to national media.

    Crump knew from his experience on the boot-camp case that publicity could force officials to act, but it would require persuading two people who had never stood before a television camera to withstand the spotlight.

    "I got on the phone with Tracy Martin and I told him, ‘It's not going to be any fun, but this is the only way to find justice,'" Julison said. "You are going to have to bare your soul and express your emotions and your inner grief." Martin and Fulton agreed. There was only one problem. At first, the media weren't interested. Julison pitched the story to a long list of media contacts.

    Eventually, on March 7, Reuters published a story titled "Family of Florida Boy Killed by Neighborhood Watch Seeks Arrest." The next day, CBS News aired a segment on "This Morning," and by 10 a.m. a crowd of reporters gathered at Natalie Jackson's law office for a news conference with Ben Crump and Tracy Martin. A media firestorm had begun.

    The article is three pages long.
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    The father said that he thought he went with to the movies with a cousin,
    so he did not worry why he was not home, and he fell asleep.
    NO he did not look for him that night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvmua View Post
    Then why do they have a foundation?
    Why does Mark Klass have a foundation? Why does Tim Miller have a foundation? Why does anyone who has ever lost a child have a foundation? To take the death of their children and do something in their memory.

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    hmmmm...........interesting what this story has brought out in people.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvmua View Post
    Then why do they have a foundation?
    Oh, I know this one. Attorneys, attorneys....they get their money regardless. Takes money to get people to listen to you because it's not like TM was missing for 31 days and the media was going to pay attention. jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    Well, people do buy insurance for that very reason. If they want to file a wrongful death suit, I say they are entitled. Or do I have that all wrong because TM was on suspension from school that night???? jmo

    I do not have a clue about insurance for wrongful death.
    I just know that given the situation at hand, they will be making a lot of money. I do not blame them, but they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvmua View Post
    Then why do they have a foundation? it reeks of G &C's foundation.
    The same reason a lot of VICTIMS have foundations. I'm confused on how this matters for any other purpose than to victim bash. Unless your suggesting that TMs mom or dad pulled the trugger that night?

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    Why would TM use the word "Homie" with George ? As far as I know the word homie is term of endearment , such as "hi homie what's up" ?
    my son's friend used homie when he introduced one of his friends to my son, he said "this is so n so he's one of my homie's". (good friends)

    I just don't see Trayvon using it with a complete stranger who's stalking him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I'm sure if you would ask Trayvon's parents if they would like their son back or a million dollars... they would pick their son.

    ETA: If they just wanted money, they would quietly sue the HOA and Zimmerman. Instead they are reaching out to any and everyone to help them get Justice for their son.

    Plus there's no evidence to support that assertion.

    (Aren't Trayvon's parents considered victims at this point?)
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