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    Trial Thread 4/4/2012

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    the crown will present its case in chapters:

    Chapter 1: The day of the kidnapping. The surveillance video showing Rafferty driving up the street outside Tori's school and McClintic walking Tori up the street. Witnesses from and around Oliver Stephens public school will talk about seeing Tori.
    An identification officer will use photographs and maps to show the route from Woodstock to Guelph.
    Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, will testify about the frantic hours the family spent looking for Tori.

    Chapter 2: Terri-Lynne McClintic. "She was an essential part of all that happened," Gowdey said. "I expect her credibility will be a major issue in this case."

    Chapter 3: Guelph -- video surveillance and bank records detailing the events there.

    Chapter 4: the Mount Forest death scene, which the jury will visit. "It will be difficult to go to the very place where this happened, I know that, but understanding the crime scene is crucial to understanding the crime," Gowdey said. Photographs, some of them graphic, will be used to explain "exactly how the killing happened."
    "Unfortunately it is only through them that you can fully understand (the) evidence," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 5: Police interaction with Rafferty.

    Chapter 6: The searches of Rafferty and McClintic's residences and the evidence found.

    Chapter 7: The Honda Civic. What was found inside.

    Chapter 8: Rafferty's connection to the Mount Forest area.

    Chapter 9: Comments Rafferty made to friends after April 8. "He had some interesting things to say to other people about Terri-Lynne McClintic and about the kidnapping itself," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 10: The May 15 weekend and Rafferty's actions.

    Chapter 11: The BlackBerry. The BlackBerry allowed police to track his movements April 8 and after.

    Chapter 12: A recap of the surveillance video.
    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19463111.html

    Salem's warning from last week:
    Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.
    Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.
    We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.
    Thank you,
    Salem
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    and reposting SoSueMe's warning:
    As some of you may have noticed, the members following this case are dropping in numbers. It's disheartening to us because we need and welcome discussion of both sides of every issue on Websleuths.
    Zero tolerance means ZERO tolerance. Please discuss this case with respect to your fellow members. Subtle and veiled harassment and/or talking in code about other members will not be tolerated.
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    Please note that everything discussed in court and printed/tweeted is now within the realm of discussion. WS has never and does not now have a policy of "innocent until proven guilty." That is for the court room. Here, we discuss, speculate, theorize and judge according to the opinions we develop from following the case.
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    Last edited by Salem; 04-04-2012 at 11:34 AM.

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    Trial Thread 4/4/2012

    Please continue here.
    Last edited by Salem; 04-04-2012 at 12:04 PM.

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    The Crown alleges Michael Rafferty, 31, raped Tori before killing her, but Dr. Michael Pollanen said that cannot be determined through the pathology.
    Tori's remains were so decomposed by the time of the autopsy on July 20, 2009, one day after a police officer acting on a hunch found them, much of the physical structures in that region of the body had deteriorated completely, he said.
    http://www.am980.ca/channels/news/lo...spx?ID=1681211

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    Good Morning!

    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀

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    Is the date on this thread wrong? Isn't it the 4th?

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    testimony at the Tori Stafford murder trial was too much for the 8-year-old's parents to stomach on Tuesday http://bit.ly/He5zm8 #ldnont
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
    ★★★★★ ღ♥Lois McMaster Bujold♥ღ ★★★★★

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    Tori Stafford trial: Coroner back on the stand for cross-examination http://bit.ly/I0fNDf #ToriStafford #Rafferty
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
    ★★★★★ ღ♥Lois McMaster Bujold♥ღ ★★★★★

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    Mike Knoll: Just thought I'd throw this out here... from Day 1 of the trial, the Crown laid out how the trial will proceed based on chapters -- right now we're on chapter 4:

    Chapter 1: The day of the kidnapping. The surveillance video showing Rafferty driving up the street outside Tori's school and McClintic walking Tori up the street. Witnesses from and around Oliver Stephens public school will talk about seeing Tori.

    An identification officer will use photographs and maps to show the route from Woodstock to Guelph.

    Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, will testify about the frantic hours the family spent looking for Tori.

    Chapter 2: Terri-Lynne McClintic. "She was an essential part of all that happened," Gowdey said. "I expect her credibility will be a major issue in this case."

    Chapter 3: Guelph -- video surveillance and bank records detailing the events there.

    Chapter 4: the Mount Forest death scene, which the jury will visit. "It will be difficult to go to the very place where this happened, I know that, but understanding the crime scene is crucial to understanding the crime," Gowdey said. Photographs, some of them graphic, will be used to explain "exactly how the killing happened."

    "Unfortunately it is only through them that you can fully understand (the) evidence," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 5: Police interaction with Rafferty.

    Chapter 6: The searches of Rafferty and McClintic's residences and the evidence found.

    Chapter 7: The Honda Civic. What was found inside.

    Chapter 8: Rafferty's connection to the Mount Forest area.

    Chapter 9: Comments Rafferty made to friends after April 8. "He had some interesting things to say to other people about Terri-Lynne McClintic and about the kidnapping itself," Gowdey said.

    Chapter 10: The May 15 weekend and Rafferty's actions.

    Chapter 11: The BlackBerry. The BlackBerry allowed police to track his movements April 8 and after.

    Chapter 12: A recap of the surveillance video.
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
    ★★★★★ ღ♥Lois McMaster Bujold♥ღ ★★★★★

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    Linda Nguyen‏@LindaNguyenPN

    Tori Stafford trial: Coroner back on the stand for cross-examination http://bit.ly/I0fNDf #ToriStafford #Rafferty
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkozub View Post
    Is the date on this thread wrong? Isn't it the 4th?
    Yes it appears they unlocked the wrong one. No worries, I'm sure they can fix that up no problem.


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    RaffertyLFP: Dr. Michael Pollanen expected to face cross-examination at Michael Rafferty trial this morning
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Yes it appears they unlocked the wrong one. No worries, I'm sure they can fix that up no problem.
    I think I asked for the wrong thread to be opened. ooops.

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    @RaffertyLFP
    • Dr. Michael Pollanen expected to face cross-examination at Michael Rafferty trial this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    I think I asked for the wrong thread to be opened. ooops.
    LOL...they can just change the titles. No problem.

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    trial set to resume with the Chief Pathologist facing cross-examination. So far Tori's parents aren't here.

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