04-06-2012, 01:39 PM #1
KY - Letcher Co., WhtMale 1027UMKY, 20-35, in Pine Mountain dump, Oct'81
The Doe Network
Case 1027UMKY http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1027umky.html
NamUs UP Case 105 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/105
Reconstruction of Victim
Date of Discovery: October 20, 1981
Location of Discovery: Pine Mountain in Letcher County, Kentucky
Estimated Date of Death: 1-3 months prior
State of Remains: Not stated
Cause of Death: Stab wound to back.
** Listed information is approximate
Estimated Age: 20-35 years old
Height: 74 inches
Weight: 190 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Blue
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown
Dentals: Available; Abscessed #8
Fingerprints: Not available
DNA: Not available
Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-10-2012 at 02:21 PM.
04-06-2012, 01:39 PM #2
Newly Added NamUs MP Casefile:
Robert Earl Crook
• His age (19-20 depending on DOB) is at the low end of the John Doe’s estimated age range (20-35).
• His height (6’1”) is within an inch of the John Doe’s estimated height (6’2”).
• His eyes are blue, as are the John Doe’s eyes.
• His hair is brown, as is the John Doe’s hair, and is styled approximately the same as the depiction in the facial reconstruction drawing.
• His Date of Last Contact (20-Apr-1981) is six months prior to the discovery of the John Doe (with a postmortem interval of 1-3 months, according to DoeNetwork.org)
• Lechner County KY is about 470 miles north of Fort Valley GA.
• He bears a good resemblance to the person depicted in the facial reconstruction drawing
Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-10-2012 at 02:22 PM.
04-06-2012, 02:43 PM #3
I sent an e-mail to Pamela Reed and Amy Burrows, and received the following prompt reply from Pamela Reed:
Thank you for this suggestion. I have passed it along to LE for follow up. Keep ‘em coming and have a wonderful weekend.
04-07-2012, 09:53 AM #4Registered User
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Good shout ... UID looks like he was a pretty big guy though (estimated at 190 lbs), while Bobby Crook was only 120 - 130 (which is *really* skinny for the height). Of course depending on the extent of decomposition they might just have taken a guess at weight based on height alone.
Other than that, there doesn't seem to be much against this being a match - REC was possibly voluntarily missing pending the suspension of his drivers' license (although that on its own doesn't seem enough reason to go missing to me)...
04-07-2012, 11:55 AM #5
I don't think the 120-130 lb estimate is right. Even 160 lbs at 6'1" would be really skinny. 120-130 would be skin and bones.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-07-2012 at 01:05 PM.
04-09-2012, 07:59 PM #6
There is another case from Harlan County, Kentucky from June 1969 where the body of an unidentified woman was also found on Pine Mountain.
KY - Harlan County - Female (NamUs #5880), 16-22, June 1969
KY KY - Harlan County - Female (NamUs #5880), 16-22, June 1969 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
I just wonder how far the bodies were from each other when they were found on Pine Mountain in 1969 and in 1981.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 12-21-2014 at 01:02 PM.
12-21-2014, 01:01 PM #7
12-21-2014, 01:35 PM #8
12-21-2014, 02:21 PM #9
What about Ralph Leon Jensen Jr. ?
Everything is spot on except for distance. Ralph went missing from Alaska in March. The UID was found in October in Kentucky.
Both are 6'2
Both have brown hair and blue eyes.
Ralph's weight is 200. The UID is 190.
12-21-2014, 10:56 PM #10There but for the grace of God go I
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The only ruleout on Namus is Ryan Kemp from Pennsylvania. https://identifyus.org/en/cases/105Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)
01-10-2015, 03:27 AM #11Registered User
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No news on this case?
01-10-2015, 08:02 AM #12
That's so weird I almost bumped this late last night but was going to wait til more people were on.
None that I know of.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody.
01-10-2015, 01:19 PM #13Registered User
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pine mtn harlan.JPG
I snipped that real quick and tried to highlight the basic area where the top part of the Pine Mountain ridge was in Harlan County. It extends into Letcher County (right) and Bell County (left).
Above is SE Letcher County. Little Shepherd Trail is purple.
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