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04-07-2012, 09:17 PM #1Former Member
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17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #19
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04-07-2012, 09:39 PM #2Former Member
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Reposting my favorite picture of Trayvon! Rest in peace Trayvon. Justice is headed your way!
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04-07-2012, 09:48 PM #3
Are there payphones in Sanford anymore? I never see payphones here in SW Florida anymore? Most businesses have pulled them off their properties? I'm just asking because I wonder where the phone call came from? Payphone? Land Line? Cell Phone? Calls are not that hard to trace anymore?
I still can't understand what kind of call would make 15 officers and a helicopter show up? I think we can rule out 1) Bomb threat 2) Hostage situation.
I was thinking someone may have called in and said they were George and they were going to commit suicide? But that would NOT bring a helicopter?
Burglary? Someone breaking into Zimmerman's home? Would that many officers arrive? Would they really employ the helicopter for a non-violent burglary?
So confused! Any ideas?Justice for Trayvon
04-07-2012, 09:50 PM #4
04-07-2012, 09:52 PM #5Former Member
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04-07-2012, 09:53 PM #6
The start time of call with Trayvon's girlfriend is only known the the nearest minute. We don't know if T-Mobile dropped the seconds or rounded to the nearest second to determine that time. The four minute call length has the same problem. But if his girlfriends description was accurate, it ended before the screaming started. And that would have been at least 15 seconds before the first 911 call. (It takes time for people to recognize a problem, call 911 and get an answer).
As for the clicking noises, to me they sound like GZ is running across gravel. Perhaps between the condo driveways or in the gap between buildings.
04-07-2012, 09:53 PM #7
04-07-2012, 09:53 PM #8
You made me snort and laugh with the reference to the post-it note.Justice for Caylee
"We have a different stage. We have the same actress," Sheaffer said.
04-07-2012, 09:56 PM #9
I don't know if anyone else has this feeling, but the whole call has my "Hinky Meter" on high? And I hate to keep on harping about it, but I just don't get it? Police know George moved out? They said they knew where he is?
It sounds like the police verified that it was a prank call, so it wouldn't have been a search warrant (that was my first thought when FT said he heard a bang... thought they busted in his door?). Plus, if it was a search warrant, I doubt that the SPD would have been involved since they are no longer in charge of this case, but there were Seminole County officers on scene? I wish it had been a search warrant because I would love to dig through Zimmerman's computer history (the nosy in me).
Think they'll release the call? It's a separate investigation?Justice for Trayvon
04-07-2012, 09:58 PM #10Women are Angels.
And when someone breaks our wings,
we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.
We're flexible like that.
04-07-2012, 10:01 PM #11
04-07-2012, 10:01 PM #12Justice and power must be brought together,
so that whatever is just may be powerful,
and whatever is powerful may be just.
04-07-2012, 10:06 PM #13
The police never actually walked Tracy Martin through the crime scene, by his own admission. He stated this during an interview on MSNBC.
04-07-2012, 10:07 PM #14
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04-07-2012, 10:09 PM #15
Okay, peeps, gotta go to bed. Sunrise service is going to come very early in the morning.
Happy Easter to all who celebrate!
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