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  1. #136
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    RaffertyLFP: The next witness is another former girlfriend of Michael Rafferty. She worked at Staples in Woodstock - He was a customer and chatted her up

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    She met Rafferty at Staples. Asked her if she knew any good places to eat in Woodstock (he was new to town). They exchanged numbers

    Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
    Defence done with McLean. She is excused. Melanie LaButte called. She met #Rafferty in a Staples. Said she would show him around Woodstock.
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    She offered to show him around town in March 09 (when try met).

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    On a Friday night, he asked if she had plans. She offered meeting friends with him at Crabby Joe's.

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    She didn't want to meet him alone, she says.
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    Good lord, more girlfriends? Didn't he just move back to Woodstock at the beginning of the year? Is this number 6 or 7 within a 4 month period?

    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by daisy.faithfull View Post
    Was it? On the shoe, in the shoe... It's more likely that his shoe would have blood anywhere on it if it was at the crime scene when the crime was occurring I thought it was reported that Rafferty did not take his shoes off, but even if they were on, they could have gotten on the edge and gotten into the shoe.
    The shoes were likely in the bag .If there was blood in the bag possibly the bag was unzippered. He was not wearing the shoes. Didn't he loan them to TLM to wear? MMO

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    RaffertyLFP: They exhanged phone numbers and later in the week they met at a Crabby Joes in Woodstock this was March 2009

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    Rafferty "wasn't a big drinker" LaBute says. They weren't there for long. Left Crabby's around midnight.

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    Rafferty drove her home. They talked in his car. Made plans to meet up for breakfast the next morning.
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Good lord, more girlfriends? Didn't he just move back to Woodstock at the beginning of the year? Is this number 6 or 7 within a 4 month period?

    MOO
    Right....and remember he told the cops he didn't know too many people.
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀

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    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    LaBute says the car was dirty, white washed interior. She didn't stare at the car. She's not a car person.

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    She saw Tim Horton's cups in the back. Venne asks if there was a car seat in the back. She says yes. Blankets were over top.

    RaffertyLFP: The woman described Rafferty's car - said the inside was "whitewashed" but the overall look was dirty and littered

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    She doesn't remember seeing the bottom portion of the back seat.
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    RaffertyLFP: The next day they went to Cora's breakfast place in London but they couldn't find it. He appeared nervous always on phone

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    He picked her up at 11 the next morning. Tried to go to a breakfast place in London, couldn't find it. Just got a coffee.

    RaffertyLFP: Rafferty told her he worked as a hiring person for construction sites, that why he was always on the phone
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Bug View Post
    RaffertyLFP: The next day they went to Cora's breakfast place in London but they couldn't find it. He appeared nervous always on phone

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    He picked her up at 11 the next morning. Tried to go to a breakfast place in London, couldn't find it. Just got a coffee.

    RaffertyLFP: Rafferty told her he worked as a hiring person for construction sites, that why he was always on the phone
    Another new job title.

    MOO

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    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    Rafferty told her he used his phone constantly for work. Told her he hired other people to do construction work. He apologized to LaBute.

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    Rafferty's car "seemed really, really dirty" the next day.

    RaffertyLFP: The woman said the car was still very dirty - back seat covered with blanket and litter
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    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    LaBute "already knew she wasn't interested" in Rafferty. He "seemed really needy."

    RaffertyLFP: The woman said Rafferty talked about going out to dinner but she lost interest - seemed really "needy"

    RaffertyLFP: Raffferty later called her asking why she hadn't called She got annoyed and arranged meeting at coffee shop to break it off

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    He asked about dinner. She never called him back. He called again days later, wondering why she hadn't called. She eventually agreed to meet
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    I see the defense is trying to confuse the jury. Nice try but the facts are the DNA found were 1 in billions or trillions that it belonged to foreign source. Furthermore, we know the car was washed and items thrown out and possible washing of shoes and coat.

    But who knows. It might work for this jury. Baez did the same thing and it worked for 12 jurors in Florida. He had a flip charts and markers and all that new tech stuff <sarcasm>

    Nah...doubt it would happen here. lol
    You can't tell us if Michael Rafferty had sex with Tori Stafford," Derstine says. McLean says she only tested for detection of fluids

    McLean also agrees that DNA evidence doesn't prove Toro and Rafferty were in the car together at the same time. No more questions
    They are attempting to create reasonable doubt, my understanding of the cross examination was to show that the DNA and blood found and the samples taken and tested could have happened at any time and not necessarily at the same time, which could create doubt that MR and Tori were in the car together at the same time. Also the fact that DNA was found, does not mean that a sexual assault occurred. I personally think they have created doubt and no doubt I'm from a small minority that think the defence is doing a good job at creating reasonable doubt. At the end of it, it doesn't matter what I think, it is what the jury thinks that is important. JMO
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    RaffertyLFP: The woman said they made small talk , she said had to get to a rehearsal, She left and had not further contact with him

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    LaButte says #Rafferty met her and friends for drinks. He drove her home. They drove to London next day for breakfast.

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    It was a Saturday, a week after breakfast drive. They talked. Rafferty offered to drive her to rehearsal for a play. She said no.

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    Never saw him again. No more questions from Venne. None from Derstine.
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Bug View Post
    RaffertyLFP: The next witness is another former girlfriend of Michael Rafferty. She worked at Staples in Woodstock - He was a customer and chatted her up

    AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
    She met Rafferty at Staples. Asked her if she knew any good places to eat in Woodstock (he was new to town). They exchanged numbers

    Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
    Defence done with McLean. She is excused. Melanie LaButte called. She met #Rafferty in a Staples. Said she would show him around Woodstock.
    Another one! I can't follow, he's a serial dater amongst other things, wow women play a huge role in his life
    Take the road of truth or it will eventually be done for you

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    RaffertyLFP: Michael Griswold is next witness,

    RaffertyLFP: Griswold is a Woodstock resident and lived on Tennyson St. a neighbor of Rafferty

    RaffertyLFP: Griswold said he helped moved Rafferty to Woodstock from Guelph He also moved Rafferty's car
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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