Mike Knoll: Hank Daniszewski's noon trial update:
Two neighbors of Michael Rafferty said they saw a car seat in a garbage pile front of his home.
Michael Griswold and David Pushie said, both residents of Tennyson Street, said they saw the car seat, covered by a couch during a spring clean up week in Woodstock on April 2009 about a week after Victoria Stafford disappeared.
Police officials testified the bottom portion of Rafferty's rear car seat was missing when it was seized in May and was never located.
Griswold said the car seat appeared to be ripped with a sharp object.
Terri-Lynne McClintic testified Rafferty told her to cut out part of the seat because it could not be cleaned.
Defense lawyer suggested to Griswold that he saw Rafferty remove the seat earlier to install speakers but Griswold said he did not recall that.
Griswold said the rear seat was in the car when he helped Rafferty move his car from Guelph a year earlier to move in with his mother on Tennyson Street.
The court also heard from a woman who briefly dated Rafferty at about the same time. She said his car seemed very dirty and littered and the rear seat appeared to be covered with a blanket.
She said Rafferty appeared "nervous" and "needy" and she moved to break off the relationship quickly.
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Perhaps the ripped seat that Griswold saw is the one that was in the car at the time Tori was taken and because of the rip in the seat "fluids" leaked inside and that is perhaps what TLM was told to cut out. The seat seen by DP was likely the same seat but with more "damage". And perhaps the reason it was seen covered by a blanket previously by girlfriends, etc. is because he was attempting to hide the original rip. MOO
Last edited by Latole; 04-12-2012 at 01:37 PM. Reason: More to add ...
Because Derstine said so?
If he wasn't "dating" TLM, why is her DNA mixed with his sperm on his front passenger car seat? Why did he have pictures of her in a motel room wearing his t-shirt on his SD card? Why is there video of them attending a movie?
yes that is possible but you know we could go back and forth on this till the cows come home...I am only going by what the witness said under oath and I am sure the jury will also.... I think we will have to agree to disagree on this and other points...respectfully.....JMO
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I'm not finding much else, but I'm still looking.
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Derstine asks Griswold if he saw Rafferty remove the car seat late in March to install speakers
Griswold said he saw a ripped car seat in the garbage pile in front of Rafferty's house There was a love seat on top
Griswold said the spring cleanup was around April 15 ,2009 He said he looked at the garbage pile in front of Rafferty's house
It sounds like Derstine has suggested it was end March.
This is the direct quote from LFPress tweet, can't speak of any other tweets.
Tweet prior to that
London Free Press@RaffertyLFPReply
Griswold is reviewing a prior statement he made to police in May 2009 to refresh his memory
London Free Press@RaffertyLFP
Griswold recalls a spring cleanup week He said there was garbage in front of Rafferty's house
1:28 PM - 12 Apr 12via web ·
Last edited by snoofer; 04-12-2012 at 01:56 PM.
As always, JMO
Evil is; as evil does.
Prayers for Jun Lin, his family and those that love him.Justice is patient, relentless in its pursuit and is on the march for Justin Lin....
RIP Tim. Justice will prevail
Victoria is the Latin word for 'victory' or 'conquer'. RIP sweet Tori.
May 15/12, Michael Rafferty guilty; 25 years with no chance of parole. R.I.H. P.O.S.
no Kamille not because Dirk said so...because I believe there is a written statement from this witness from that time frame (which he reminded him of and the witness agreed)..... I have stated my thoughts and the way I read the statements today and now I will move on so this will be my last post on that seat)... respectfully yours...... I also would like to add that I want the person or persons responsible for TS death to be dealt with according to the law but I also don't want someone convicted on the words of a known and proven liar....how sad would that be....as I have previously stated, there is no doubt in my mind that MR played some role in this but to what extent has yet to be proven...the fact that he was there should be enough to put him away for a number of years but lets make sure that the label on him is the correct one....accessory yes...murderer (no as per TLM)...sexual interference with TS...not proven and can't be....no evidence as per the pro's...that is why I am keeping an open mind on those other charges... his lifestyle is no concern of mine nor how many women he dated at one time etc....
At least this was my understanding. Hopefully someone will jump in if I'm wrong. I'll go looking for those tweets.
Last edited by Shasta; 04-12-2012 at 02:05 PM.
Their theory is that TLM lied about why VS was there, and she had her own plot brewing. The plot didn't work out and the police had become involved by then. TLM decided to murder VS to hide her involvement.
MR panicked when he returned to the car, didn't call LE, and tried to hide the evidence of the crime.
TLM claimed MR told her.......to help clean up because she was involved in it as much as he was. When TLM first made that statement........she accused MR of killing VS. Now that we know it was TLM who killed VS, it is more likely that TLM said that to MR.......IMO
IMO.......The Crown counted heavily on the testimony of TLM, but her changes in testimony and the background uncovered by the defense.........devastated her credibility.
Keeping in mind that the expert noted that it is possible for DNA to e deposited in layers.
The thought of the inside of that car makes me ill. Yech!
I am confused as to why there was all this sperm from MR in his car when in this photo #45 http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19599961.html
Shows two different brands or type of condoms. I wonder if forensics tested Tori's shirt for latex?