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    RaffertyLFP: Griswold said the spring cleanup was around April 15 ,2009 He said he looked at the garbage pile in front of Rafferty's house

    RaffertyLFP: Griswold said he saw a ripped car seat in the garbage pile in front of Rafferty's house There was a love seat on top

    RaffertyLFP: Derstine asks Griswold if he saw Rafferty remove the car seat late in March to install speakers

    RaffertyLFP: Derstine asks Griswold if he saw Rafferty put the car seat in the shed - Griswold says no

    RaffertyLFP: David Pushie is the next witness

    RaffertyLFP: Pushie lived at 75 Tennyson St. in spring 2009 - Rafferty lived across the street

    RaffertyLFP: Pushie said he never spoke to Rafferty. He told police in Spring 2009 that he saw the car seat in front of Rafferty's home covered by couch

    RaffertyLFP: Pushie described it as the seat portion of a back seat He said the clean up happened about a week after Easter in 2009

    RaffertyLFP: Court recesses until 2:15 p.m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    Question: I general, which human tissues and fluids contain sperm fractions?
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    "the sperm cells are treated with some extra chemicals to help remove them from the substrate and also break them open. This is called a sperm fraction."
    http://books.google.com/books?id=LnK...action&f=false


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    I'm sorry DNA evidence may not be 100% conclusive but tlm testimony matches up almost completely. He is going down. He was there for the kidnapping he had the car he drove tlm to home depot knowing what she was going to buy he found the spot that was secluded in moo, he could have drove away, called police or atoll topped it from happening and he didn't he lied, destroyed evidence and thought that he would never get caught. Even if they can't prove the rape he is going down. Nothing destine can say will take away from the facts .
    May you rest in peace.....Tori Stafford

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    Sorry my iPhone made some spelling errors. I meant he could have told someone
    May you rest in peace.....Tori Stafford

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    That's why LE said they couldn't look through all the garbage apparently tons of it because it was too late by the time they were on to him to retrieve that car seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincanada View Post
    As much as I think MR is guilty of something, I was expecting way more from the crown to prove the sexual assault charges. So far, nothing. I'm baffled. It appears they have nothing but TLM's story to base this charge on.
    TLM's story that is being proven bit by bit, Tori's blood mixed with semen (dropped there at different times - highly doubt it), and not to mention the fact that she had no clothes on her lower body.

    If I understand right, the only direct evidence is TLM's testimony, but there should be enough circumstantial evidence to come to the conclusion.


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    Sorry I haven't been able to help with the tweets the last 2 days. I take one week off work and come back to disaster.

    MR was arrested May 19th, correct? I wonder when LE questioned these witnesses? Do we know if they checked the dump site for the car seat? I don't remember. Too late now but I guess I'm wondering if they did or didn't and if they did, was one or two month too much time lapse to retrieve something from a dump site.
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    Was it explained where sperm fractions or whole sperm cells come from, if not semen? I'm sorry, I just don't get it. JMO


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    JMO........The inside of the car was painted white before the abduction, and it wasn't "whitewashed" after the crime to hide evidence, as many had surmised.

    The only evidence found on MR's pea coat that TLM said was used to cover VS in the back seat for a couple of hours, only contained 2 hair fibers, one which belonged to MR and one unknown female........but not VS. Where is the DNA?.....even saliva DNA..........nothing from VS?

    The cut out chunks of foam appeared in the April pile of garbage, along with the car seat.

    Didn't TLM testify she cut them out and threw them out the window along the 401?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsoul2 View Post
    That's why LE said they couldn't look through all the garbage apparently tons of it because it was too late by the time they were on to him to retrieve that car seat.
    Thanks...you answered my question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarrieBean View Post
    TLM's story that is being proven bit by bit, Tori's blood mixed with semen (dropped there at different times - highly doubt it), and not to mention the fact that she had no clothes on her lower body.

    If I understand right, the only direct evidence is TLM's testimony, but there should be enough circumstantial evidence to come to the conclusion.
    I thought the expert said there was no semen present?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardy View Post
    JMO........The inside of the car was painted white before the abduction, and it wasn't "whitewashed" after the crime to hide evidence, as many had surmised.

    The only evidence found on MR's pea coat that TLM said was used to cover VS in the back seat for a couple of hours, only contained 2 hair fibers, one which belonged to MR and one unknown female........but not VS. Where is the DNA?.....even saliva DNA..........nothing from VS?

    The cut out chunks of foam appeared in the April pile of garbage, along with the car seat.

    Didn't TLM testify she cut them out and threw them out the window along the 401?

    MOO
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    I believe it has been said by various witnesses this far there were blankets in the back seat, I wonder if these blankets were ever found, or have ever been tested for DNA. MTR could have had a blanket laid out over the back seat during the rape and therefore not leaving much DNA evidence on the actual seat. Just a thought, nothing to back that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardy View Post
    I thought the expert said there was no semen present?
    I'm sure someone else is keeping much better track of all this and can find it, but if I'm not mistaken there was semen present in the one spot of TS's blood...just not enough to determine's who's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladi View Post
    I'm sorry DNA evidence may not be 100% conclusive but tlm testimony matches up almost completely. He is going down. He was there for the kidnapping he had the car he drove tlm to home depot knowing what she was going to buy he found the spot that was secluded in moo, he could have drove away, called police or atoll topped it from happening and he didn't he lied, destroyed evidence and thought that he would never get caught. Even if they can't prove the rape he is going down. Nothing destine can say will take away from the facts .
    and if they acted together as the crown says..what is the motivator for a male to do this....statistics say it is sexual in nature
    As always, JMO

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