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I had a discussion with the owners about how we were to deal with this. This is what I was advised:
At this point in the investigation we don't KNOW exactly who ALL the victims are now. We KNOW that Trayvon is a victim, because he is dead. However, news breaks and new leaks come forth everyday and it is still unclear whether Zimmerman was a victim of any violence. Until more verifiable FACTS are available, WS has chosen to err on the side of treating both the confirmed (Trayvon) AND potential (Zimmerman) victim, both as victims.
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After learning all we've learned about GZ today, go back and listen to his call to police.
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Talk about a ride on the crazy train today...just whoa...
The lawyers said they were working for free until he gets arrested. I think that is their words.
Vinnie Politan: "Fasten your seatbelts!"
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George is not going crazy. This is George and how he has always been. He called the cops on his landlord because the landlord wanted rent and George did not feel it was right because the house was being foreclosed on.
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(brought this over from other thread so may be UGLY)
and it's GZ who told the SA when he called them directly that the two attorneys were just his "legal advisers" and not his attorneys. Naturally, the SA's office would not speak with him further as it would be unethical.
I just can't believe that they stood there and stated they were withdrawing as counsel and then proceeded to continue to speak about and for their former client. I find that highly questionable in the ethical realm. You need permission to speak publicly and share information the client divulged to you. However, I wonder what, if anything, was divulged or whether they got all their info from the father and the media? I know I found it odd that they continued to not meet with their client. At first I thought it was so they would not be able to "see" his serious "injuries" but after all this time even his life threatening shaken baby injuries would likely be healed to the human eye so it was likely just George being controlling. Honestly, as time goes on he seems nuttier and nuttier.
Originally Posted by Donjeta
I don't think it matters if they were paid or not; a pro bono client relationship is just as good as a paid one afaik. IMO an attorney doesn't have to meet your client personally either in order to work with them although it would help tremendously imo.
Was it the attorneys or GZ who said that they weren't his attys but only his legal advisers?
They have been referred to as his attorneys in the media multiple times until now and no one has ever objected to the description until now.
Three things cannot long be hidden the sun, the moon, and the truth. -Confucious
When I heard the lawyers were calling a presser I was sure that they were announcing GZ'z arrest. LOL Boy, was I off.
“Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn
A lie will go round the world before the truth gets its pants on - Charles Spurgeon
Anyone think the lawyers quitting is a stall tactic?
AFTER A TRIAL, OF COURSE
Could this whole "withdraw" from legal counsel have been a ploy?
I mean, things had calmed down a lot! People were calmly waiting for the decision from the SA? Now all the sudden, these two lawyers, who are not even GZ's lawyers, come out swinging and bring back a lot of raw emotions that were there at the beginning? I think their plan was to bait the public so they could get everyone angry again and hope for it to boil over so much so that when Zimmerman is arrested, the potential jury would be influenced by any countering statements/actions made?
Justice for Trayvon
Man Vinnie speaking to states he feels GZ has paranoid issues.
That was the dadgummist thing I ever saw...........
If there's hink....there must be stink.
Crump "great concern for family of TM"...they ask "does this mean they don't know where GZ is at" they ask "is he a flight risk"?
There was always something so fishy about the attorneys never meeting with him face to face. Now even more so. IMO
That was a shameful display for those men who call themselves attorneys. I'm embarassed for them. Shameful an unprofessional! Some of the pundits keep saying they're well respected. If they once were, they are no longer. IMO