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    17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #21

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    Clairfication on WS stance regarding the "victim friendly" issue.
    I had a discussion with the owners about how we were to deal with this. This is what I was advised:
    At this point in the investigation we don't KNOW exactly who ALL the victims are now. We KNOW that Trayvon is a victim, because he is dead. However, news breaks and new leaks come forth everyday and it is still unclear whether Zimmerman was a victim of any violence. Until more verifiable FACTS are available, WS has chosen to err on the side of treating both the confirmed (Trayvon) AND potential (Zimmerman) victim, both as victims.
    Like I said, that may change after we have more verifiable information
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    After learning all we've learned about GZ today, go back and listen to his call to police.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyGatto View Post
    After learning all we've learned about GZ today, go back and listen to his call to police.
    Can you be more specific??? I'm suffering from shell shock over this pressor???


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    Talk about a ride on the crazy train today...just whoa...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedrys View Post
    Talk about a ride on the crazy train today...just whoa...
    I knew better than to follow another case in Florida.
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    There was always something so fishy about the attorneys never meeting with him face to face. Now even more so. IMO

    That was a shameful display for those men who call themselves attorneys. I'm embarassed for them. Shameful an unprofessional! Some of the pundits keep saying they're well respected. If they once were, they are no longer. IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    I knew better than to follow another case in Florida.
    Understand where you are coming from, but I am so very glad that I did as I now can light a candle for someone often and keep the *after*case alive for the "other" case, in addition to meeting and getting to know many fellow and mods VERY well over the years that now are here in this thread.

    Perhaps more of such through this case as I'm getting to know folks much better in this case it seems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by atthelake View Post
    Understand where you are coming from, but I am so very glad that I did as I now can light a candle for someone often and keep the *after*case alive for the "other" case, in addition to meeting and getting to know many fellow and mods VERY well over the years that now are here in this thread.

    Perhaps more of such through this case as I'm getting to know folks much better in this case it seems.
    I am honored to be here with you and everyone else for this case, atthelake!
    I've met many friends during the Caylee and Oklahoma girls and other cases since I joined WS in 2008 so I plan to ride this one out with you all. And, we have the best mods ever!

    My post was due to my frushtration at the circus atmosphere that has enveloped this case and I didn't mean to offend. {{{Group hug backatcha}}}

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    The lawyers said they were working for free until he gets arrested. I think that is their words.


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    Could this whole "withdraw" from legal counsel have been a ploy?

    I mean, things had calmed down a lot! People were calmly waiting for the decision from the SA? Now all the sudden, these two lawyers, who are not even GZ's lawyers, come out swinging and bring back a lot of raw emotions that were there at the beginning? I think their plan was to bait the public so they could get everyone angry again and hope for it to boil over so much so that when Zimmerman is arrested, the potential jury would be influenced by any countering statements/actions made?

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    I don't think a "ploy" per se

    more a circus. What should have been a quiet and private termination of a relationship became a media spectacle because of these guys where they proceeded to still "represent" him after withdrawing from "representing" him.

    They must practice law a lot differently in FL than they do back here in the east because I've never seen anything like the characters you Floridians come up with! They clearly are trying to rile up white people, that's my estimation with taunting the Martin family and their supporters and imitating them. These people lost their son. I've honestly never seen an attorney for someone who has admitted killing someone go on TV and make fun of the victim and his family and supporters. It's just weird. I think they are now trying to manipulate the racial angle to make it look like blacks are being unreasonable and to try and separate out the black supporters from white people in general. Little do they know how many of us white people support Trayvon's family and don't make judgments based on the race of the defendant or victim. But it's the same as going on shows like Hannity which has a reputation for fermenting racial animosity by equating the calling out of racism AS racism. That's a well established ploy.



    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    Could this whole "withdraw" from legal counsel have been a ploy?

    I mean, things had calmed down a lot! People were calmly waiting for the decision from the SA? Now all the sudden, these two lawyers, who are not even GZ's lawyers, come out swinging and bring back a lot of raw emotions that were there at the beginning? I think their plan was to bait the public so they could get everyone angry again and hope for it to boil over so much so that when Zimmerman is arrested, the potential jury would be influenced by any countering statements/actions made?

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    George is not going crazy. This is George and how he has always been. He called the cops on his landlord because the landlord wanted rent and George did not feel it was right because the house was being foreclosed on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    George is not going crazy. This is George and how he has always been. He called the cops on his landlord because the landlord wanted rent and George did not feel it was right because the house was being foreclosed on.
    His former atty from 2005 said on hln that he was an 'assertive' client.
    ...and be sure your sin will find you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    His former atty from 2005 said on hln that he was an 'assertive' client.


    Thin line between assertive and aggressive...

    Says a lot about him in general IMO



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