17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #23

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Is there any word on what time the bond hearing is?
 
I want to see medical documents and autopsy.
 
darn it! I lost all my quotes to comment on from the last thread!
 
Any idea if and when we would getto see docs. Will any evidence be presented at the pretrial about the syg defense?
 
What i can't wait for, is all this "secret evidence" to come out. If Zimmerman had the wounds he says he did, i want to see the photographs, i want to see or hear the testimoney of the EMT onsite that attended to him. He says he was bleeding? Then the defense should be able to say where the blood was at on Trayvon. Surely is he's pinning him, punching him in the face, nose and banging hs head on the cement, while muffling his cries for help (per Robert Zimmerman's speech last night) Trayvon had to have some blood on his clothing belonging to Zimmerman???

On the other hand, i think the prosecution is sitting on something, either witness testimony, video that hasn't been released yet, something that nails Zimmerman, or else that would of pursued manslaughter. There's got to be some "smoking gun" that's going to make us all say... "Well there's no ducking your way out of this George!"
 
What i can't wait for, is all this "secret evidence" to come out. If Zimmerman had the wounds he says he did, i want to see the photographs, i want to see or hear the testimoney of the EMT onsite that attended to him. He says he was bleeding? Then the defense should be able to say where the blood was at on Trayvon. Surely is he's pinning him, punching him in the face, nose and banging hs head on the cement, while muffling his cries for help (per Robert Zimmerman's speech last night) Trayvon had to have some blood on his clothing belonging to Zimmerman???

On the other hand, i think the prosecution is sitting on something, either witness testimony, video that hasn't been released yet, something that nails Zimmerman, or else that would of pursued manslaughter. There's got to be some "smoking gun" that's going to make us all say... "Well there's no ducking your way out of this George!"

Maybe looking for a plea?
 
I *really* hope the crime scene was processed properly. . .
 
Etilema, in response to your question about the knocking sound on the 911 call.....

I dunno. I guess that's why I am so curious about the outside sounds in this call.

According to csziggy's post on the last thread there were 3 sets of 3 knocks, 2:41:70. 3:04:07, & 3:07:40. Am I figuring it correctly at 26 seconds total?

Those dadgum mysterious knocks vex me! ;)

wm

ETA: I just realized this was my 5001st post! woohoo!
 
I want bullet trajectory, entry point, and firing distance. And I want it now. That's not asking for too much, is it?
 
Here is a quick and VERY amateur video I just made regarding the PF9, as there were some questions earlier about sounds in the 911 call. I don't know what the sounds were, but wanted to show what sound this would make if you were "preparing to use/carry etc.."

I'm not a gun expert, just someone who carries.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7R8YBayEzs"]PF9 - YouTube[/ame]

Anadarko
 
Anyone found any online streaming links for the bond hearing?


ETA: HLN just said they will cover it live - I would still like a streaming link because they always cut to commercials
 
What i can't wait for, is all this "secret evidence" to come out. If Zimmerman had the wounds he says he did, i want to see the photographs, i want to see or hear the testimoney of the EMT onsite that attended to him. He says he was bleeding? Then the defense should be able to say where the blood was at on Trayvon. Surely is he's pinning him, punching him in the face, nose and banging hs head on the cement, while muffling his cries for help (per Robert Zimmerman's speech last night) Trayvon had to have some blood on his clothing belonging to Zimmerman???

On the other hand, i think the prosecution is sitting on something, either witness testimony, video that hasn't been released yet, something that nails Zimmerman, or else that would of pursued manslaughter. There's got to be some "smoking gun" that's going to make us all say... "Well there's no ducking your way out of this George!"

The initial police report stated he was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head.

I know a lot of people do not believe that report, but I just thought I'd point that out.
 
Just wanted to state that not all of FL is in EST -- I'm on CST and always seem to get the time change wrong :)

Time Zone challenged! Thanks. I'm central too and always mess it up.
 
The initial police report stated he was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head.

I know a lot of people do not believe that report, but I just thought I'd point that out.

I dont disbelieve it, I just dont know its cause. maybe it was like one brilliant poster yesterday said, perhaps the recoil from the gun caused the injuries. perhaps in trayvon's fight for his life against an armed man who was following him he got a few hits in. he died for nothing more than Zimmerman's overzealousness so I sure wouldnt begrudge him some self defense.
 
Here is a quick and VERY amateur video I just made regarding the PF9, as there were some questions earlier about sounds in the 911 call. I don't know what the sounds were, but wanted to show what sound this would make if you were "preparing to use/carry etc.."

I'm not a gun expert, just someone who carries.

PF9 - YouTube

Anadarko

Thanks. That was scary, but awesome!
 
I dont disbelieve it, I just dont know its cause. maybe it was like one brilliant poster yesterday said, perhaps the recoil from the gun caused the injuries. perhaps in trayvon's fight for his life against an armed man who was following him he got a few hits in. he died for nothing more than Zimmerman's overzealousness so I sure wouldnt begrudge him some self defense.

We also don't know if some of that blood came from Trayvon. I doubt that they tested to see if any of the blood was Trayvon's.

Witnesses said ( paraphrasing ) that right after the shooting he was walking with his hands on his head.

Sadly, I don't think we'll ever know the answer to that.

JMHO
 
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