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Yes, and that goes both ways. There's certainly no monopoly on objectivity on either side of this case.
If you haven't seen this girl repeatedly bashed, then I'm afraid you haven't been reading Trayvon's threads long enough.
I think it's quite possible that she may have been afraid to call the police due to a cultural belief that many blacks seem to share - that LE is not to be automatically trusted. But then I don't really know exactly when or whom she told. None of us do. Nevertheless I see her as a victim.
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-Martin Luther King, Jr.
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I've seen a lot of people surprised - as in, how does this fit into the puzzle - when she did nothing after hearing that exchange and then the phone went dead permanently.
It's a curiousity, is all. Considering how hysterical girls at that age can be, and how melodramatic and very attached they often are - I feel like there's a piece of this puzzle missing when I hear she did nothing.
Trayvon Martin’s father says he warned son..
Years before the killing of Trayvon Martin grabbed the nation’s attention, the teen’s father warned him that his race could make him a target of violence.
The advice Tracy Martin gave his black son, that people veiled by racism and prejudices might see him as suspicious or violent, is a common and continuous warning in many black families, parents and experts say. In the aftermath of Trayvon’s death, more families are having “the talk,” teaching sons to be aware of their race, avoid confrontations with authority figures, and to remain calm in situations even if their rights are violated.
“I’ve always let him know we as African Americans get stereotyped,” Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father told USA TODAY three weeks after his son’s death. “I told him that society is cruel.”
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BBM: Seriously, now the girlfriend has done something wrong by coming forward? It's not her fault LE did NOT contact her, it's LE's fault.
We have stooped to a new level, bashing the victim's family and friends...
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From the last thread Jeanna T
As I recall, Trayvon's phone was locked. I don't know how it became locked, that'a bit of a mystery.
I don't see how they could have possibly known his identity if he wasn't carrying any ID - and his phone was locked.
I do still wonder about why the girl had no way to reach anyone who should be notified. I would think that would be absolutely terrifying to hear that call, and I can't believe she doesn't have SOME way to know who this young man's family was.
edited to add: I am really curious now about how his phone would have gotten locked.
SPD, a professional LE agency, couldn't even be bothered to put two and two together that Trayvon lived where he died. It was beyond them to canvas the condos and knock on doors, which is standard operating procedure in a homicide. In fact LE not only did not knock on any doors they were out of there so quick Trayvon's parents never saw any evidence of a crime by the time they got home from dinner.
And yet, we want people a couple of hundreds of miles away to be able to do a job that LE couldn't do?
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Kids circle and keep each other's secrets. That's all I can come up with to think why she wouldn't have alerted his mother. He was already in significant trouble, and running to the family would very likely cause them to be aware of yet another piece of trouble Trayvon was in.
Knowing kids, and how they huddle and don't tattle, all I can think is she thought he was probably fine and telling on him would reveal something to his parents he didn't want revealed.
Can anyone else think of another reason she would keep this mum?
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Phone being "locked" = password protected. No big mystery there.
If there's hink....there must be stink.
But I believe this paints kind of a different picture of what actually was going on - what Trayvon was telling her, and the brief conversation she overheard.
As she tells the story, any girlfriend would have been in a terror panic after hearing that. The fact that she didn't react like a girl terrified for the safety of her boyfriend colors my perception of what actually took place, and what actually she overheard.
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So when you are on the phone, if you become disconnected because the phone drops, it locks itself and the phone owner would have to get back in with a password to call the person back? We don't own any phones that are password protected, so I don't know.
I thought you had to lock a phone. I know the phones in my house, you pick them up and you can get in to them with no password. But people can lock them, if they chose, like if you don't want to have a pocket call or something.
I use an old rickety phone and don't play around with my family's better newer iphones.
" When ever you find yourself on the side of majority, it's time to pause and reflect."- Mark Twain
It's seems whoever serves on the jury will be hearing a lot about phones, and listening to recordings.
According to prosecutors Zimmerman didn't utter a racial slur. I'm not sure what to make of that, or if the FBI is still investigating the civil rights allegations of the case. The last article I've seen on the Feds investigation was back in March.
It sounds like she's relying on the mother's testimony that it's Martin and not Zimmerman yelling for help, but voice matching software has been used in other cases and that seems like better evidence to present to the jury.
Not sure where she's going with case.
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Sending extra prayers to Trayvon's parents today as I know they will never get to experience these wonderful moments in Trayvon's life and I am going to cherish this day because I know how lucky I am to have this wonderful young woman in my life (and I actually LOVE her boyfriend).
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"We have a different stage. We have the same actress," Sheaffer said.
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If you have a password protected phone, and you lose it, you're SOL? No one can open it to look through your contacts, or answer it if it rings?
(Phones with GPS on them could be found again, I guess, but without GPS, you would never have your phone returned).
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