But you can also use that same law to prevent death/great bodily harm to yourself.
Separate things that you can use the law for.
Just my opinion
Justice for Trayvon
If George was so scared... he wouldn't have gotten out of his car. He shows no signs of being scared of confronting a kid who was "checking him out", and "had something in his pocket", and appeared to be "on drugs."
Trayvon running shows someone who was "scared" and felt threatened. Backed up by the girlfriends statement.
It's all right there... in George's own words!
Justice for Trayvon
Well, when the people who actually made the SYG law and the govenor who signed it into law believe that George Zimmerman's actions that night do NOT fall under the SYG laws... we have a problem.
Can we agree on that?
Justice for Trayvon
I may be confused ( it certainly wouldn't be the first time and probably won't be the last ) but when AC says forcible felony, the First Aggressor is what she's talking about? GZ couldn't be the first aggressor and then turn around and say he was standing his ground? The forcible felony would have been on Trayvon's part, against GZ, and that's what gave GZ the right to stand his ground?
Forcible felony covers quite a few things;
776.08 Forcible felony.—“Forcible felony” means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.
Secondly, the stand your ground law is not going to cover Zimmerman if he was the first aggressor and we already know that is exactly what he was. He pursued Trayvon; therefore, he can't turn around and say that he murdered him because he was standing his ground.
(I myself haven't read the law nor will I and am only going by Ms. Corey's interpretation of the law as she has prosecuted many cases under the SYG law. I'm sure there are many interpretations of the laws out there and I will leave it to an attorney that I trust to make that decision).
I've called the sheriff's non-emergency number here for things like noise complaints, aggressive dogs and what I thought were gunshots and never hesitated to give my name, address, or home phone number. Other than the suspected gunshots, I waited to meet with the officers.
O/T -The "gunshots" were a different story - they sounded as though they were in the pasture where I had a newborn foal. If it had been poachers, they could have mistaken her for a deer, so I went down into the pasture with a big flashlight, calling the mare to come to me - I figured if it were poachers, that would scare them off.
Even when the deputy got there, he thought they were gunshots, but another deputy notified him that it was actually someone setting off fireworks in the neighborhood east of my farm. The echo across the valley made the fireworks sound just like gunfire, even to the professional!
I think GZ's actions are all part of the frightened paranoid mindset that made him get a concealed carry permit and buy a gun. While I agree we all have a right to own weapons - I own a gun myself - I will never understand the need for the average citizen to carry a concealed weapon. I don't consider this to be a healthy attitude and think it is bad for the country.
If people think their community is unsafe, I think they should work to make where they live safer by addressing the factors that increase crime - lack of education, jobs, opportunities, etc. Putting more weapons on the streets is NOT making us safer!
IMO, JMO, etc.
heres my thing......Most people would agree that gz didnt act reasonably. It is not reasonable to size up a teenager as a criminal in two minutes and kill him. It is not reasonable to follow a person who might be dangerous. It is not reasonable to believe killing a person should just "blow over". gz assumptions about this child were wrong. Can we not agree on at least that?? and because he wrongly assumed someone was a criminal, he acted in an unbelievably irresponsible way. In a way that a responsible adult or gun owner shouldnt act. He should be held responsible and accountable for his actions.
In regards to (2) (a)
I think it would be difficult to get away from someone if they were on top of you,had you pinned down, pounding your head into the concrete.
And then we have this exception>>>
BUT, even under the old law, George Zimmerman would have been entitled to stand his ground and use non-deadly force (i.e. fisticuffs) without first attempting to retreat. See Morris v. State, 715 So. 2d 1177 (Fla. 4th DCA 1998) (There is no duty to avoid danger before using non-deadly force.)
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