" When ever you find yourself on the side of majority, it's time to pause and reflect."- Mark Twain
The above has a map, similar to Papa's....here you can see where GZ went wrong...I believe he never was heading back to his vehicle and was always in pursuit of Trayvon....
Good morning everyone :-) Last night I watched Trayvon's parents and his brother on Anderson. What a sweetheart Trayvon's brother is. I have no reason to believe Trayvon was not just like his brother. It brought tears to my eyes to hear Jahvaris speak of Trayvon in the present tense, :-( Sybrina sure does make some beautiful babies :-)
Sanford Chief of Police and the city of Sanford; an official explanation is front and center on their web site specifically addressing why he was NOT arrested here: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html.
It clearly states:
It doesn't say that he wasn't charged, it says that he wasn't ARRESTED. According to this sources, and countless others, he was NOT arrested, and I would presume that Sanford PD has more accurate information on that than just an assumption that handcuffs equal an arrest.Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?
When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr.
Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.
Last edited by Kimster; 04-19-2012 at 10:10 AM. Reason: We don't need to get personal. Thanks!
This is hard for me to articulate but let me try. Let's say that you have a blurry photo which includes a sign with some gray colored words on a white background and you can't make them out but need to know what they say for some reason. If there's a digital enhancement and they come out stark black on white and you can read them, then that's all you need. But if the actual color of those words has some meaning as well, then you have a distortion because the words were gray in real life.
Do you think the story (stories) GZ told his father and Frank Taffee will be allowed in court? If so, would they be called to testify on the stand, and if so, will the interviews where they conveyed his story to the media be played in court as well. I hope so, because if not, he can get on the stand and say something different and get away with it. My hope is that with these different accounts, and the absurdity of them, that the jury will not believe GZ.
When my brother was first murdered, I used to wait for him to come through the front door ready for dinner...I once set a place for him at the table..then realized he's not here..It's a hard emotion to overcome, especially such an horrific, tragic loss of a young teen who had his whole life planned out...
I pray they find peace and solace and celebrate Trayvon's short life..
But let me put it another way: Martin's parents have called repeatedly for an arrest. Zimmerman's family has not at all argued against the fact that he was not arrested that night, nor have his lawyers. Apparently the Sanford PD, the Mayor, both of the families involved, and every MSM outlet (and non-MSM as well) and all the experts at their disposal are in agreement that this man was not arrested on the night of the crime. So why is this even an argument?
getting brutally beaten.....brains smashed on the sidewalk.....loosing consciousness .....short of breath.....and swallowing his own blood.....could ever reach into the waist on the INSIDE of his britches.....that his attacker is sitting on.....
draw out his little gun.....
and shoot his attacker in the chest, killing him.
I just don't get it.
But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops. Luke 12, 2-3
(I believe this information can be found on thread #225, post #661).
Personally myself, Bonaparte and ex-Police Chief Bill Lee have zero credibility to me. The only one so far in the city of Sanford that has any credibility left whatsoever is Mayor Jeff Triplett.
Here is the copy of the enhanced version on ABC's site. Not quit as dramatic as the one shown above but marks still showing.
Due to the elongated marks I wonder if his head was hitting the edge right where the grass and the sidewalk meet.
Also when the first video aired I thought GZ had a bald spot at the top of his head but after seeing his court video that is not the case, he doesn't have a bald spot. Was his head beaten to the point that the hair was removed or would swelling have caused the appearance of bald skin?
I think this issue would only become important if down the road Zimmerman said he was cuffed, detained and transported against his will because that COULD constitute an arrest and that he should have been mirandized.
But for now I concur he was not arrested but understand how it could be arguable to a judge if he did not go along willingly.
JMHO of course.
ETA: It occurs to me that it could also be SOP to cuff anyone that is involved in a shooting death and detain without being elevated to the level of arrest. Since they knew Zimmerman was the shooter I am betting this is what happened. However it still could be an argument for the defense in the future to get any of his statements thrown out.
More of my opinion.