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    Quote Originally Posted by pinktoes View Post
    About the swimming thing. Pg 223 in Touched. Go to amazon.com; set up an acct (no nasty email barrage will follow). Search his book. Use the word 'payback'. Two options should come up. It's the second one. (Not all of the book is available there, but this part is).

    Hope this is within copyright restrictions:

    "some of the very last days when I had taken my father swimming...I accidentally lowered his upper body and head under the water....When I was sure he was okay, I put a smile on my face and said, 'It's payback time, isn't it?'"

    Bear in mind, this is a memory he had of recent times; it was on the day his dad died, just after the coroner showed him into his dead father's bedroom to see his body. He said it was the cycle of life, with him holding his weak dad up in the water, just as his dad had done for him over 45 yrs before.

    I just find that both chilling and informative.
    He might have meant that he was caring for his father as his father had cared for him.


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    JJ: I don't think so, from the way his other anecdotes were written (and not by him, I know; by his ghost writer). Seems like his others--to wit, sarcastic humor.

    Sorry; should've given you more context. Jer let his dad's head go underwater, accidentally. Saw bystanders' concerned faces; looked and saw dad underwater. Pulled his head up. Dad "...screamed at me, 'What are you doing?!?'" Then Jer smiled and said, "It's payback time, isn't it?" (pg 223, Touched)

    See if this will take you directly in:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=DhU...page&q&f=false
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinktoes View Post
    JJ: I don't think so, from the way his other anecdotes were written (and not by him, I know; by his ghost writer). Seems like his others--to wit, sarcastic humor.

    Sorry; should've given you more context. Jer let his dad's head go underwater, accidentally. Saw bystanders' concerned faces; looked and saw dad underwater. Pulled his head up. Dad "...screamed at me, 'What are you doing?!?'" Then Jer smiled and said, "It's payback time, isn't it?" (pg 223, Touched)

    See if this will take you directly in:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=DhU...page&q&f=false
    Okay, I can see that context a bit more clearly. It is a little creepy.


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    Prosecutors' response to Amendola's request for more detailed info on the accusations:

    http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/#p74

    Scroll past all the individual paragraphs to the bottom of the page where it reads "AVAILABLE DOCUMENTS" and find the following:

    •SANDUSKY AMENDED CRIMINAL INFORMATION FOR 2422 2011 5/18/2012 5:00:22 PM
    •SANDUSKY AMENDED CRIMINAL INFORMATION 2421 2011 5/18/2012 5:00:06 PM
    •SANDUSKY COMMONWEALTHS MOTION TO AMEND THE INFORMATIONS AND BILL OF PARTICULARS 5/18/2012 4:59:40 PM


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    Thanks, Benny!

    Criminal Docket

    http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketS...R-0002422-2011

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    Amended Bill of Particulars 5/18/12

    http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/upl...ARTICULARS.pdf

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    Amended Criminal Information - victims 1-8 - 40 charges

    http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/upl...422%202011.pdf

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    Amended Criminal Information - victims 9 and 10 - 12 charges

    http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/upl...421%202011.pdf


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    Judge ruled against the defense motion to delay the trial: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/05/2...se-denies.html

    Set for June 5.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    Judge ruled against the defense motion to delay the trial: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/05/2...se-denies.html

    Set for June 5.
    Good!

    On the amended criminal informations submitted, not one charge has been removed and most the new information given of the incidents cover years and several places for each victim. Amendola better get to work since none of his delaying tactics and flim flam have changed the AG's or court's determination to bring JS to trial on all 52 counts of being the child predator he is. June 5 is coming up soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reader View Post
    Good!

    On the amended criminal informations submitted, not one charge has been removed and most the new information given of the incidents cover years and several places for each victim. Amendola better get to work since none of his delaying tactics and flim flam have changed the AG's or court's determination to bring JS to trial on all 52 counts of being the child predator he is. June 5 is coming up soon.
    The judge has not ruled on the dismissal motion as of yet. Victim 8 might be dismissed, but I'd be surprised if the others would be.


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    Paterno family to get $13,000,000+ in pension benefits over the next two years: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/05/2...ceive-134.html


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    It will be interesting to see what effect this has on public opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StellarsJay View Post
    It will be interesting to see what effect this has on public opinion.

    Paterno's estate is entitled to it and some of it will be going to charity (I think about $2,000,000).


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    Paterno family to get $13,000,000+ in pension benefits over the next two years: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/05/2...ceive-134.html
    Obscene.


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    I have never been one of those "Joe Knew about 1998" people, but this may warrant a bit more investigation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipstaff View Post
    Obscene.
    He earned it. He'd been paying into it for 61 years. I won't begrudge the estate that.


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