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    NC - Fort Bragg soldier PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #3

    Police are questioning friends and relatives of a missing Fort Bragg soldier who is believed to be in danger.

    Kelli Bordeaux, 23, was last seen early Saturday morning leaving Froggy Bottoms bar in Fayetteville, N.C. The private first class, who is stationed at nearby Fort Bragg, was reported missing on Monday by base officials, police said.

    "There is some information we've gathered that makes us concerned for her safety," said Fayetteville Police spokesperson Gavin MacRoberts. He declined to go into more detail due to the ongoing investigation.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/soldier-kel...2#.T43PWO19GXw

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    Bordeaux is described as standing 5' tall and weighing 99 pounds. She has blond hair and brown eyes. The soldier was reportedly last seen wearing a pink halter top and black shorts.

    Fayetteville Police Public Information Officer Gavin MacRoberts said based on information gathered during the investigation, detectives believe she may be in danger and are asking for anyone who may have seen her to contact police at (910)433-1856 or CrimeStoppers at (910)483-TIPS (8477).
    http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...cal&id=8624607

    Fort Bragg officials reported Pfc. Kelli Bordeaux, 23, missing on Monday, and police say she "may be in danger."

    Bordeaux was last seen leaving Froggy Bottoms bar, at 6326 Ramsey St., around 1:20 a.m. Saturday. She was wearing a pink halter top and black shorts.
    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10991835/

    link to article about original RSO charges of NH: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/103731/


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    Fort Bragg Soldier pfc Kelli Bordeaux, 23, missing since 14 April 2012: #3

    new thread for Kelli
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    Ouch Nurse, I got squashed in the door...

    I am going to bring over my previous question for VOH, if you cannot answer that is fine, just have to give it a shot...lol.

    VOH,
    Its been stated previously that there was approx. 20 patrons during the course of the night at the bar on that night. May I ask, does Froggy's serve food? Also, does Froggy's have a bouncer? Barmaids? or is it strictly the bartender that works alone and closes down the bar at the end of the night?

    I guess I am trying to ask how many are working a given shift at Froggy's? Especially on a Friday night? TIA

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    After police searched the bucolic North Carolina countryside, St. Cloud soldier Kelli Bordeaux is still missing one week after she vanished from a Fayetteville bar.

    Police said they are following up on several leads from their tip line and other sources but could not provide any new information, according to spokesman Gavin McRoberts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portabella View Post
    Ouch Nurse, I got squashed in the door...

    I am going to bring over my previous question for VOH, if you cannot answer that is fine, just have to give it a shot...lol.

    VOH,
    Its been stated previously that there was approx. 20 patrons during the course of the night at the bar on that night. May I ask, does Froggy's serve food? Also, does Froggy's have a bouncer? Barmaids? or is it strictly the bartender that works alone and closes down the bar at the end of the night?
    Was just going to copy and paste to answer this.

    Froggys does not serve food in the evenings. There is a food car outside of the bar (you can see it in the videos). Breakfast and lunch are served there. However, occasionally, the employees of the bar will bring in food they have made for the patrons. Or, if a party of benefit event was held, the left over food will be served.

    Froggys used to have an officially paid bouncer, but he deployed. It was left to the local motorcycle club to help out. After all, it was considered "their" bar. They had helped handled small situations in the past so that they did not turn into scenes. Until recently, I was under the impression that Nick was the bouncer, based on previous information, although I cannot verify paid or volunteer. Obviously we all know what has been reported concerning his association with the bar.


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    I was trying to think of the words that the Chief used the other day about Nick and the latest article that you posted has it "person with information." So, at the moment that's what he is, not a POI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portabella View Post
    Ouch Nurse, I got squashed in the door...

    I am going to bring over my previous question for VOH, if you cannot answer that is fine, just have to give it a shot...lol.

    VOH,
    Its been stated previously that there was approx. 20 patrons during the course of the night at the bar on that night. May I ask, does Froggy's serve food? Also, does Froggy's have a bouncer? Barmaids? or is it strictly the bartender that works alone and closes down the bar at the end of the night?

    I guess I am trying to ask how many are working a given shift at Froggy's? Especially on a Friday night? TIA
    To complete your question - on a Friday night it is usually who ever is tending bar and Billie. (And Nick recently, but I do not believe he will be there ever again.) If some of the members of the motorcycle club are there, they will ensure they get to their car. Some regulars, who are trusted, are also welcome to stay to ensure the women get to their cars safely. Sometimes, six or seven people will lock themselves in the bar after last call, help the tender clean up, and exit the building together upon locking.

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    Hopefully someone can answer this.
    If LE did in fact have bloody clothes, how long would it take to test the blood and find out who it belonged to?
    I wonder when and where the alleged bloody clothes were found.

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    what's going on? catch me up please. Has some new info about a 'male friend' been released? All I know is that Nick said that Kelli had been in the bar previously with a 'male friend' and that's when he met her. Has the male friend come into the picture the night Kelli went missing?

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    VOH based on the information that you KNOW and have observed, do you have a theory as to what may have happened? I am not asking for your theory, just if you have one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VOH910 View Post
    To complete your question - on a Friday night it is usually who ever is tending bar and Billie. (And Nick recently, but I do not believe he will be there ever again.) If some of the members of the motorcycle club are there, they will ensure they get to their car. Some regulars, who are trusted, are also welcome to stay to ensure the women get to their cars safely. Sometimes, six or seven people will lock themselves in the bar after last call, help the tender clean up, and exit the building together upon locking.
    You know, I am really happy that you posted this about people helping the women to their cars safely, and to my thinking, this wasn't and isn't just a normal sleezy bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andalso View Post
    Hopefully someone can answer this.
    If LE did in fact have bloody clothes, how long would it take to test the blood and find out who it belonged to?
    I wonder when and where the alleged bloody clothes were found.
    I believe it would depend on whose blood was on the clothing and if any of the perp's blood is there, if they had a DNA match already in the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    what's going on? catch me up please. Has some new info about a 'male friend' been released? All I know is that Nick said that Kelli had been in the bar previously with a 'male friend' and that's when he met her. Has the male friend come into the picture the night Kelli went missing?
    nope

    everyone just wonders if he was there that night, if he is a co worker, what the nature of their relationship was, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by VOH910 View Post
    Was just going to copy and paste to answer this.

    Froggys does not serve food in the evenings. There is a food car outside of the bar (you can see it in the videos). Breakfast and lunch are served there. However, occasionally, the employees of the bar will bring in food they have made for the patrons. Or, if a party of benefit event was held, the left over food will be served.

    Froggys used to have an officially paid bouncer, but he deployed. It was left to the local motorcycle club to help out. After all, it was considered "their" bar. They had helped handled small situations in the past so that they did not turn into scenes. Until recently, I was under the impression that Nick was the bouncer, based on previous information, although I cannot verify paid or volunteer. Obviously we all know what has been reported concerning his association with the bar.

    Nick is the bouncer? I wouldn't have guessed that.
    Just doesn't seem like he would be to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andalso View Post
    Hopefully someone can answer this.
    If LE did in fact have bloody clothes, how long would it take to test the blood and find out who it belonged to?
    I wonder when and where the alleged bloody clothes were found.
    Before this case, I was following the Sierra LaMar case and noticed that it took LE about 4 weeks to get the DNA results back. I don't know if blood evidence would be faster or not. I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VOH910 View Post
    To complete your question - on a Friday night it is usually who ever is tending bar and Billie. (And Nick recently, but I do not believe he will be there ever again.) If some of the members of the motorcycle club are there, they will ensure they get to their car. Some regulars, who are trusted, are also welcome to stay to ensure the women get to their cars safely. Sometimes, six or seven people will lock themselves in the bar after last call, help the tender clean up, and exit the building together upon locking.
    this sounds like a great bar (and one that I would like to have a drink at and sing a few songs on the karaoke machine)
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    Re: talk of Nick being a sort of taxi.
    I ran a small bar like Froggy's. Our bartender would run people home every single night.if she was'nt there then the bar back did. It was a much appreciated "service". Good for all involved, though now years later I see how dangerous it was.
    Just saying it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VOH910 View Post

    It was left to the local motorcycle club to help out. After all, it was considered "their" bar. They had helped handled small situations in the past so that they did not turn into scenes.
    Couple more quick questions as follow up...if you will oblige...

    Is it still considered "their" bar? ( you said was)

    and

    Do you know if this "local motorcycle group" are going to assist in the search once volunteers will be accepted.

    Thank you for putting up with all the questions VOH....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    nope

    everyone just wonders if he was there that night, if he is a co worker, what the nature of their relationship was, etc
    I was just asking questions based off of what "Nick said". I have not heard anything from LE or the media about a "male friend". Just trying to play detective in my own home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyWong* View Post
    Re: talk of Nick being a sort of taxi.
    I ran a small bar like Froggy's. Our bartender would run people home every single night.if she was'nt there then the bar back did. It was a much appreciated "service". Good for all involved, though now years later I see how dangerous it was.
    Just saying it happens.

    yep, that was my thinking when I brought that 'taxi' phrase up to describe Nick.

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    The brother of a Fort Bragg soldier who has been missing for a week said Friday that they family remains confident that she is alive and will be found.

    Pfc. Kelli Bordeaux, 23, of St. Cloud, Fla., was last seen around 1:20 a.m. April 14 leaving a bar on Ramsey Street in Fayetteville called Froggy Bottoms.

    Officials at Fort Bragg reported her missing to Fayetteville police Monday when she didn't show up for duty.

    Investigators were searching the area near the bar Friday after a two-day search of a pond about 8 miles away, which was prompted by a tip, turned up nothing.Fayetteville Police Chief Tom Bergamine said that detectives are still treating Bordeaux's disappearance as an active missing person's case but that they have "grave concerns" about her well-being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    I was trying to think of the words that the Chief used the other day about Nick and the latest article that you posted has it "person with information." So, at the moment that's what he is, not a POI.
    I think MSM throws around the word Person Of Interest too much...must be to gain more headline grabbing attention. Yesterday, I heard & saw the phrase a few times about NH, can't link you now, but I am sure you all saw it. Meanwhile, when reporters asked the police chief directly if NH is a POI, he said NO.
    I think MSM uses POI they way I do, which is not good. (Remember, I have 4 POI's right now...but hey, I can do that, I'm not LE...MSM should not do it, IMO).

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    No, Woe - only speculation by a few that others might have caught a ride as a group with KB from NH. I don't think this is the case, honestly.

    I have this scene in my head - not sure where its coming from.... goes like this: KB went to Froggy's (planned) with NH - that unnamed male friend we don't know anything about came into the bar at some point? Could that unnamed male friend be someone from the base? Perhaps someone that reported her missing? Dare I say it? Just a thought. There is information that probably points directly to a motive or something .. stemming from something that happened that night...which is why it's imperative that the police speak with everyone.. then, I would wager.. a clear picture will form.... just my gut talkin...
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