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    Originally posted by Dreamweaver:

    I emailed PPD detective about time of Home Depot receipt.
    I got an email today.
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    The Home Depot receipt is 3:04. He went earlier to CVS pharmacy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Can we take a moment to talk about the suit against the BL which the Co Conservators lost?

    PB testified, and she was the only one who testified, that neither her father or the co conservators ever made a demand for repayment from BL. She opted to resist the request for the production of the yellow piece of paper where Bob kept a list of monies given to BL because it didnt state anywhere on the document that the money wasnt a gift.

    Umm, ok. As a civilian and a non legal eagle, this is pretty perplexing. I mean, this has to be the definition of frivolous, or am I confused? In fact, this strikes me as a colossal waste of time and trust assets. Because you better believe that the money from this action did not come from the pockets of the co conservators.

    Sooooo, I spoke with an atty a while ago regarding the civil suit. The perspective of the atty was that the co conservators were attempting to prove due diligence. That they were attempting to collect what they believed to be outstanding money owed to Bob's trust.

    Monetary gifts to BL seem like small potatoes from where I am sitting, but surely the audit (if it is completely filed) will shed light on all of the markers being called in.

    Remind me again, the audit was originally due back in 2010, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Originally posted by Dreamweaver:

    I emailed PPD detective about time of Home Depot receipt.
    I got an email today.
    PPD says:
    The Home Depot receipt is 3:04. He went earlier to CVS pharmacy.



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    Not to repeat myself but it sure seems to me that the timeline was changed to fit the Home Depot receipt.

    Some examples:
    __________________________________________________ ___

    Daughter J states her father disappears around noon or 1 pm.

    Reporter: “J says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    J: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    J: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/...9354&src=front


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    July 28, 2009~~ Daughter J posted on ROTW at 1:50 pm and says that her father has been missing for about 28 hours. That would put the time of Mr. Harrod's disappearance at about 10:00 am on July 27, 2009.

    http://rimoftheworld.net/discuss/166/53721?page=0

    __________________________________________________ _______

    Robert’s son-in-law told cops that in the late morning on July 27, 2009, he had left Robert to run errands at the hardware store, and when he returned, Robert was gone.

    http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=67544

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    Robert Harrod was last seen at his residence on July 27, 2009 at 11:00 A.M. in the city of Placentia. When a family member returned to the house at approximately 1:00 P.M., Harrod was gone.

    http://placentia.org/DocumentView.aspx?DID=102

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    Harrod was last seen at his residence in the 500 block of Carnation Drive Placentia, California sometime between 11:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. on July 27, 2009. His son-in-law went to the store and when he returned at 1:00 p.m., he found the front door locked, the housekeeper waiting on the porch, and Harrod missing.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...od_robert.html

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    "He was at home and seemed in good spirits when I last spoke to him somewhere between 11 a.m. - 12pm. His son-in-law was there doing odd jobs as Dads new wife was returning from Missouri on Wed. 7/29/09. Heard son-in-law say he was going to the hardware store. When he returned the housekeeper was waiting outside and Dad was gone."

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2706/0

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    JM told police that he worked at the home then went to Home Depot about 2:40 p.m. to buy supplies. When he returned about 3:30 p.m., Bob's housekeeper was sitting on the front stoop because no one had answered the door.

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    What happened to Mr. Harrod on Monday July 27, 2009 is the same today, as it was the day he disappeared.

    What matters is the TRUTH.

    The TRUTH does not change.

    We are here to discover the TRUTH surrounding the events which led to Mr. Harrod's disappearance. We will continue to seek the truth until Mr. Harrod is recovered and those responsible for his disappearance are held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo View Post
    Not to repeat myself but it sure seems to me that the timeline was changed to fit the Home Depot receipt.

    Some examples:
    __________________________________________________ ___

    Daughter J states her father disappears around noon or 1 pm.

    Reporter: “J says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    J: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    J: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/...9354&src=front


    __________________________________________________ _______

    July 28, 2009~~ Daughter J posted on ROTW at 1:50 pm and says that her father has been missing for about 28 hours. That would put the time of Mr. Harrod's disappearance at about 10:00 am on July 27, 2009.

    http://rimoftheworld.net/discuss/166/53721?page=0

    __________________________________________________ _______

    Robert’s son-in-law told cops that in the late morning on July 27, 2009, he had left Robert to run errands at the hardware store, and when he returned, Robert was gone.

    http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=67544

    __________________________________________________ _______

    Robert Harrod was last seen at his residence on July 27, 2009 at 11:00 A.M. in the city of Placentia. When a family member returned to the house at approximately 1:00 P.M., Harrod was gone.

    http://placentia.org/DocumentView.aspx?DID=102

    __________________________________________________ _______

    Harrod was last seen at his residence in the 500 block of Carnation Drive Placentia, California sometime between 11:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. on July 27, 2009. His son-in-law went to the store and when he returned at 1:00 p.m., he found the front door locked, the housekeeper waiting on the porch, and Harrod missing.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...od_robert.html

    __________________________________________________ ___

    "He was at home and seemed in good spirits when I last spoke to him somewhere between 11 a.m. - 12pm. His son-in-law was there doing odd jobs as Dads new wife was returning from Missouri on Wed. 7/29/09. Heard son-in-law say he was going to the hardware store. When he returned the housekeeper was waiting outside and Dad was gone."

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2706/0

    __________________________________________________ _______

    JM told police that he worked at the home then went to Home Depot about 2:40 p.m. to buy supplies. When he returned about 3:30 p.m., Bob's housekeeper was sitting on the front stoop because no one had answered the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Jaw Dropping. Completely jaw dropping. This post should be a sticky for this case.
    That is one of the many informative posts that could be linked in the first post of each of Bob's threads. Just an idea...maybe it already is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Well let's see-it might prevent family members who can be motivated by money from breaking ranks and giving information. But that is the cynical side of me.
    Funny thing is, it's like a prisoner's dilemma. Whichever family member comes forward first (and it could likely be only one of three people, none of whom live in Running Springs) is probably going to be the only one to be able to collect on the family trust. The rest, one would imagine, as accessories to or participants in a murder, would be excluded. The trust funds make the reward seem paltry. So, it's really a huge gamble. Stay silent, and one risks losing it all down the road when the other shoe drops. If someone is brave and righteous enough to speak up she will reap the rewards of a substantial inheritance, be able to look herself in the mirror, and sleep better at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Can we take a moment to talk about the suit against the BL which the Co Conservators lost?

    PB testified, and she was the only one who testified, that neither her father or the co conservators ever made a demand for repayment from BL. She opted to resist the request for the production of the yellow piece of paper where Bob kept a list of monies given to BL because it didnt state anywhere on the document that the money wasnt a gift.

    Umm, ok. As a civilian and a non legal eagle, this is pretty perplexing. I mean, this has to be the definition of frivolous, or am I confused? In fact, this strikes me as a colossal waste of time and trust assets. Because you better believe that the money from this action did not come from the pockets of the co conservators.

    Sooooo, I spoke with an atty a while ago regarding the civil suit. The perspective of the atty was that the co conservators were attempting to prove due diligence. That they were attempting to collect what they believed to be outstanding money owed to Bob's trust.

    Monetary gifts to BL seem like small potatoes from where I am sitting, but surely the audit (if it is completely filed) will shed light on all of the markers being called in.
    Due diligence isn't exactly selective, or shouldn't be. Especially when it comes to ones legal fiduciary responsibilities. We'll see if after 2 years they can finally completely file what is required by the court for the audit. Or if this will be more of the target of a timeline, secret handy man job type scenario....




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    video - daughter JuM

    Daughter J states her father disappears around noon or 1 pm.

    Reporter: “J says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    J: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    J: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/...9354&src=front

    I don't have sound. Did she cut off the reporter mid sentence answering, "My dad was gone."?

    It's interesting to watch daughter J's eye contact.

    At one point it looks like she is looking right over the reporters right shoulder- to something behind the reporter.

    And when asked about the time, she's clearly surprised by the question.
    So surprised, she looks completely away, as if looking at someone straight ahead for some back up confirmation or to gain her composure, before she turns back and answers.


    What date was that video from? The day Fontelle returned? Or was that the day following Bob's disappearance while she was dth 'changing the linens'?

    I wonder if the reporter (or camera men) noticed if the carpet was damp? Or if it was more humid indoors than usual for a home in Placentia in late July?
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    Man. That is the first time I have watched any family members talk about his disappearance on video. Wow. It is one thing to have read family member postings on IS and other places- but to put a face and a persona with the words is powerful. IMO Her expressions don't match the words coming out of her mouth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Daughter J states her father disappears around noon or 1 pm.

    Reporter: “J says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    J: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    J: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/...9354&src=front

    I don't have sound. Did she cut off the reporter mid sentence answering, "My dad was gone."?

    It's interesting to watch daughter J's eye contact.

    At one point it looks like she is looking right over the reporters right shoulder- to something behind the reporter.

    And when asked about the time, she's clearly surprised by the question.
    So surprised, she looks completely away, as if looking at someone straight ahead for some back up confirmation or to gain her composure, before she turns back and answers.


    What date was that video from? The day Fontelle returned? Or was that the day following Bob's disappearance while she was dth 'changing the linens'?

    I wonder if the reporter (or camera men) noticed if the carpet was damp? Or if it was more humid indoors than usual for a home in Placentia in late July?
    UBBM. BBM.

    Not sure when, but clearly before Fontelle returned as near the end, she says that she (or they) is waiting to welcome Bob's new wife (or did she say "bride"?) and hopes that he will return to join them in welcoming her. (Paraphrased)

    It is interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Daughter J states her father disappears around noon or 1 pm.


    I don't have sound. Did she cut off the reporter mid sentence answering, "My dad was gone."?

    <respectfully snipped>

    I think it's a soundbite thing.
    On another note, everytime I watch that video I am astounded at the facial expressions, the widening eyes, the blinking...

    I still dont understand how the next day, after 24 hours of (you would think) rehashing the scenario, they wouldn't have the time straight. Noon-1:00 versus three and change is a HUGE difference.IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Daughter J states her father disappears around noon or 1 pm.

    Reporter: “J says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    J: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    J: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/...9354&src=front

    I don't have sound. Did she cut off the reporter mid sentence answering, "My dad was gone."?

    It's interesting to watch daughter J's eye contact.

    At one point it looks like she is looking right over the reporters right shoulder- to something behind the reporter.

    And when asked about the time, she's clearly surprised by the question.
    So surprised, she looks completely away, as if looking at someone straight ahead for some back up confirmation or to gain her composure, before she turns back and answers.


    What date was that video from? The day Fontelle returned? Or was that the day following Bob's disappearance while she was dth 'changing the linens'?

    I wonder if the reporter (or camera men) noticed if the carpet was damp? Or if it was more humid indoors than usual for a home in Placentia in late July?
    She doesn't cut the reporter off - the first audio from reporter is a sound bite, and then it cuts to the reporter interviewing JuM. Also, this was filmed Tues, July 28, 2009, the day after Bob disappeared.


    Filmed Tuesday, July 28, 2009 in Bob’s house – the day after Bob went missing

    Reporter: “Julie says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    JuM: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    JuM: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    Reporter: “Julie insists her father has never done this. She says his knees are bad – he can barely walk for more than two blocks, is showing signs of dementia, his long lost love Fontelle, is also worried sick, and is anxious to be here with her new family.”

    JuM: “Our father means the world to us. More than anything, I want Fontelle to come home to her husband. And um, I just want everybody to embrace this, if they don’t know him, just to even say a prayer that he’ll come home.”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=ac85bbd7-919c-45df-8bff-de9407f59354&src=front


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    JuM didn’t see Bob much in previous 6 months yet told reporter on July 28th Bob was showing signs of dimentia... FYI, she refers to hairdresser below as POI.

    • On Aug 13, 2009, JuM posted on IS that Bob “pushed us away around Christmas, he wanted time to get in touch with his feelings. It hurt all of us, we tried to respect his wishes but I would stop in now and then when I was down the hill and he would be happy to see us.”
    • And “This is heartbreaking, the distance he created was so selfish. We found out that he purchased lavish gifts for POI…”
    • And “In a nutshell that is what happened until we came down to meet F he wanted us to be an instant family again. The difficult situation of just losing our mother and then D pushing us away was insane. As if our emotions can be shut down and then turned back on in a snap.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudajo View Post
    She doesn't cut the reporter off - the first audio from reporter is a sound bite, and then it cuts to the reporter interviewing JuM. Also, this was filmed Tues, July 28, 2009, the day after Bob disappeared.


    Filmed Tuesday, July 28, 2009 in Bob’s house – the day after Bob went missing

    Reporter: “Julie says her husband was with her dad, at his home yesterday. He went to the hardware store alone. When he came back…”

    JuM: “My dad was gone.”

    Reporter: “What time?”

    JuM: “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

    Reporter: “Julie insists her father has never done this. She says his knees are bad – he can barely walk for more than two blocks, is showing signs of dementia, his long lost love Fontelle, is also worried sick, and is anxious to be here with her new family.”

    JuM: “Our father means the world to us. More than anything, I want Fontelle to come home to her husband. And um, I just want everybody to embrace this, if they don’t know him, just to even say a prayer that he’ll come home.”

    http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/...9354&src=front
    By the way, you'll notice that the SIL JeM is not in the video because he didn't return to Bob's house the next day with his wife JuM. Why? According to another daughter, JeM planned to return the next day to do more work for Bob, but since Bob still wasn't answering his phone, he didn't. Does that make sense to anyone?


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