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    The top quote just goes to show you she was the one whom wanted to do such a crime. She's crazy and 25 years isn't long enough. IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardy View Post
    I don't know about Oliver Stephens school, but many schools in Woodstock don't allow pickups in their parking lots. They are reserved for school staff only. Many schools also don't allow parking in front the schools because the school buses pick up kids there.

    Perhaps other people park at the Caressant Care parking lot as well.

    I have always wondered how brazen TLM was walking away with VS.....if she didn't know who VS parents were. How could she know her mom and dad weren't standing there watching her and wondering what she was doing?
    JMO...............

    Well remember that Tori was late getting out cuz she returned to get her earrings, maybe by the time she got out, all the other kids had left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macright View Post
    surprised he took chances on a "Timmies" usually a favourite hangout for cops...JMO
    I have no idea about police preference for Timmies, but obviously there were none there that day else he wouldn't have stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty View Post
    Well remember that Tori was late getting out cuz she returned to get her earrings, maybe by the time she got out, all the other kids had left.
    They did walk past the one mother (who testified) that was waiting for her kids. Which made me think that TLM knew who TM and VS were prior to this day.


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    wow...she sure followed through on that wish...JMO


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    Just out of curiosity, what kind of evidence would you expect to find on a body that was decomposing for over three months and a suspect who was free to cover his tracks for 6 weeks? Should we not even try cases where DNA doesn't reveal the complete facts of the case? JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by tmhco View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what kind of evidence would you expect to find on a body that was decomposing for over three months and a suspect who was free to cover his tracks for 6 weeks? Should we not even try cases where DNA doesn't reveal the complete facts of the case? JMO
    I feel they have enough evidence so far to put these 2 away for life. JMO


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    When was it that MR car was shown to the pubic? Didn't they show it before they knew who it belonged to? Because if they did why didn't anyone come forward as it sure wasn't a car that if someone saw before they wouldn't remember.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkzerz View Post
    When was it that MR car was shown to the pubic? Didn't they show it before they knew who it belonged to? Because if they did why didn't anyone come forward as it sure wasn't a car that if someone saw before they wouldn't remember.
    The car was shown after he was arrested.

    http://www.ocpsaux.org/PHOTOSFrame1Source1.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkzerz View Post
    TLM had to have a cell phone????

    RaffertyLFP: McClintic consented to release cell phone records, DNA samples and several trips with police to find Tori's body [via Twitter]
    believe it was her mother's she carried IMO
    As always, JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    The car was shown after he was arrested.

    http://www.ocpsaux.org/PHOTOSFrame1Source1.htm
    Okay so at the bottom of the page police ask "IF YOU RECOGNIZE THIS VEHICLE PLEASE CONTACT"
    I can't believe no one recognized it out of all those women that saw MR car that month. Surprising.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahorn View Post
    For three years I believed that MR was a sadistic sexual diviant that physically and psychologically controlled TLM and forced her to participate in VS abduction, rape and murder. But now I am not so sure ...

    For me even though it would easier to believe TLM version of the events, it may not necessarily be the truth. The truth needs to be told, that is the only way VS will ever receive true justice.
    Do you think MTR will tell the truth? I very much doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFB73 View Post
    The worn look could also be due to the fact he was worried and stressed that they were going to take him down any minute and knowing what kind of treatment he may be in for if convicted and sent away! Living life after the fact like nothing had happened could have been his method of trying to keep his mind off the intense guilt he must have been under. A good example of the toll stress takes is to look at any US president when elected and when they leave office....
    I doubt he felt guilty. I think he may have been under intense stress because he knew his goose was fried.
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    Justice has not failed Victoria... Rest in peace Angel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkzerz View Post
    Okay so at the bottom of the page police ask "IF YOU RECOGNIZE THIS VEHICLE PLEASE CONTACT"
    I can't believe no one recognized it out of all those women that saw MR car that month. Surprising.
    it probably was recognized and called in by several, why do you think no one did? LE would not release further info regarding this.


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    No he will not. He is a coward
    May you rest in peace.....Tori Stafford

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