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    Quote Originally Posted by Macright View Post
    Otto I think the poster was referring to the two people in court today who were caught taking pictures..one had left his phone in his auto with a picture on it taken from inside the court room which is a no no and could cause a mistrial..It looks like he took the picture at another time...The other person was caught red handed with his phone and picture inside the court.. JMO
    respectfully...
    Just to point out that there are three breaks in each trial day and the photo could have been placed there during one of those breaks and been taken the same day. I wonder what could have been of such interest in today's proceedings for those men to take that risk? Spectators are searched twice before entering that room and told to turn off all phones.

    I think it's terrible that these guys would do this and hope they get a fine, but seriously doubt that it will cause a mistrial. Fortunately, no photographs got out.

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    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Bla...409/story.html

    Found link to christie blatchford story and a video link.
    I love her writing style and generally agree with her take on things.
    Have been searching for a video that will play on a iPad, no luck yet.
    On the west coast so picking all this up late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty View Post
    Looking at MTR, one would never think he had witnessed the horrifying murder of a child just a month before either. Hmmm. JMO

    he probably didn't witness the murder...just the aftermath but I agree he shouldn't have looked so carefree but then as I mentioned previously..looks can be deceiving...JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquegirl View Post
    It would be interesting, but certainly not necessary. He contacted them on his phone. The Facebook update was only referring to his state of mind to share with anyone on his friend list. He didn't need a coded message to his drug connections. My FB friends and I often share our moods and expectations via updates, although we try to avoid "vaguebooking", as he did here.

    JMO
    I would like to find out if TLM druggie friends were gang members and/or did MR have contact with them after TLM was locked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightlady View Post
    I will wait to see what the defense has to say, but I am curious if anyone here can think of a reason for the behavior of MR to TLM AFTER the murder took place, given that the defense has already said that he helped to clean up.
    I have heard people postulate he was unaware of the kidnapping until too late (babysitting, drug debt), that there was no rape, that he walked away when the murder took place. But why would he act like he does after the fact if TLM's sudden plan and visciousness was a surprise to him? Why would he continue to "court" TLM? Why would he rev up his "dating" life? Is there some explanation I am missing? His actions seem to speak so loudly of his deep involvement to me.
    MHO I don't think the defense has done any good for MR thus far. As I have stated before maybe Derstine knows MR's goose is cooked and there is no help for him. I don't see on shred of information from Derstine's cross that will go to help MR getting off of "any" of the charges. I did compile a list IIRC on Monday from all the LFP tweets of Derstine's cross examinations of witnesses and nothing, absolutely nothing worthwhile. Will be interesting to see who Derstine calls as witnesses, if he calls any at all. That will IMHO be the big telltale sign of what Derstine thinks of this whole case. There is so much evidence and he has not been able to shed the slightest bit of doubt in my mind, and everything TLM stated to in her testimony is bang right on the line. I think it's a done deal really. Again just my own honest opinion.
    Rest in peace Tori, Tim and Jeremy.

    "On May 6th, the devil led the vilest form of evil down my driveway and it smiled at me before it took Tim away." Good always triumphs over evil. Keep the faith, justice will prevail. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Exactly what I thought. Be a good obedient girl *pat* *pat*. What a j**k. I realize TLM is the dredge of the earth but can you imagine being that deperate for someone to love you?
    He interacted with TLM in a weird way ... I almost have to wonder if his mom patted his head like that; that patting the head represented affection or manipulation to him. For whatever reason, when he wanted to be sure that TLM kept her mouth shut, he patted her head like most people pat a dog.

    How could anyone believe that this guy was duped ... his lawyer must be trying to score points for lawyering by defending this guy. There is no way that a real lawyer could actually believe this duped story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty View Post
    That's what I thought too Otto, and she let him do it, Gawd!
    Look at the way she walks ... she waddles with her head in all sorts of directions when she sees him, and she can't let go when he leaves - wandering to the window repeatedly long after he left. He's Mr Important with his impatience outside the detention centre ... in the footage, he appears to think that he is getting away with murder. Did his lawyer introduce the April 8 and 12 footage or was that from the prosecution? It should have been introduced by the prosecution as it's very damning for the suspected co-conspirator in the pedophilia abduction and murder.

    He is anything but duped with his twirls and back-cracking uplifts ... he was bartering with her to keeping her mouth shut and all she got was a lousy magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMouse View Post
    There's nothing to suggest to me that MR was in lust nevermind love. From what the motel video showed and now the detention center videos...TLM had big puppy dog eyes for MR and he knew it and used it to his advantage.
    In lust? MR was not in lust with anything unless there was something in it for him. The 26 year old mom with five children that gave him $16,000 thought that he was exclusive with her and that marriage was their future. She was in lust. She was duped. TLM wasn't duped into the brutality of the murder, but she was duped into thinking that she meant something to MR ... she most likely thought that by giving MR what he wanted, he would love her more. That's what Karla Homolka said ... that she believed that if she gave her husband what he wanted (her virgin sister), he would love her more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardy View Post
    I agree that MR didn't care for her much.

    The video in detention shows her appear to be asking for a hug, then she gets up and goes towards him. He does get up and give her a hug.......but it wasn't his idea.

    Then when he is leaving and walking out, she goes up to him and walks backwards, in the "dance like" scene some have said. I think he just wanted to leave and was placating her.

    All he wanted from her was her drug connections and maybe a little nookie now and then...........that's it.

    As to the manipulation part.........I don't think he is nearly bright enough.

    JMO.............
    How is it possible that all he wanted from her was drug connections! He had commited a kidnapping and murder of a child with her one month earlier. He wanted her to keep her mouth shut more than anything and if he had to flirt with her to get what he wanted, he was prepared to do it ... on camera.

    More than anything in the world, he wanted his accomplice to keep her mouth shut when she was in detention for a parole violation. He had his own drug connections and money funnels ... he wasn't visiting her in jail because he wanted some percocet or oxycontin pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardy View Post
    Except that if she earned $17000 or more in 6 months, she wouldn't qualify for social assistance.

    JMO...........
    If she earned more than she declared from the escort income ($16,400), which was reportedly entirely handed over to MR, then she wouldn't be able to receive welfare ??? but if she earned $16,400 and gave it all to MR in gifts and bank transfers, then she wouldn't have to pay income tax for all of the money, or repay welfare?

    So ... maybe she earned more ... but shouldn't MR pay tax on half of that income? The income would have had to be in the area of $31,000 with a 50-50% split before anyone would lose their $17,000 ceiling welfare benefit cutoff.

    It's scary to see that a 26 year old woman with five children fell for the Rafferty line of "I'm seeking to better myself, I have several layers to my personality ..." and she handed over $16,400. That's a lot of extra cash for a single mom of 5 and a guy she met on a virtual pick-up joint.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladi View Post
    I dont think its that much. When I was on maternity leave I was getting $245 for my daughter. There is not way its $700 per child. IMO
    i know of a mother of 3 that gets 1200 month for child tax benefit, plus then her daddy money, and gst rebate; she quit her job because she makes more money sitting home and enjoys it more (her words). Then with a live in boyfriend. Oh yes this is our tax dollars at work. JMO So assumingly then her benefits went up when stopped working. Here is the chart. It is astonishing JMO Side note: She and bf went down south this winter. How many of us working stiffs not collecting these big benefits went south this year? JMO

    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/bnfts/cctb/...ymnts-eng.html
    As always, JMO

    Evil is; as evil does.


    Prayers for Jun Lin, his family and those that love him.
    Justice is patient, relentless in its pursuit and is on the march for Justin Lin....

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