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    MacRoberts said.

    Bordeaux, 23, a private first class, has not been seen since about 1:30 a.m. on April 14, police have said, when she left Froggy Bottoms bar at 6326 Ramsey St., at the Interstate 295 interchange.

    An eviction notice was filed today in civil District Court against the owners, listed on official documents as Mandy Murphy and Michael Waguespack, whose addresses are given as Froggy Bottoms.

    The complaint says the owners owe a total of $2,412 for back rent, late fees and damages.

    The complaint was filed by Realty World Integrity First at 2935 Breezewood Ave. in Fayetteville.
    http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/...0?sac=fo.local

    So where does SC claim ownership? He isnt on the lease ,or the ABC papers . So I guess it is just something he says?

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    I dont think the male soldiers death has anything to do with kelli! It happens all the time. If i had a dollar for every new soldier or older ones that seperate or divorce i would be rich!!! moo

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    I am still not 100% certain that LE has not located KB's phone. Even if some one were to turn it off, if it was a newer model phone (smartphone) then they could still track it by GPS, which is much more accurate than relying on cell tower pings anyways. If they haven't found the phone, then the battery has been removed or the phone has been heavily damaged, along with the GPS chip (like if it was underwater or something). I believe that the GPS method is good to within 100 ft. of where the phone is.

    While pinging is possible only when the phone is turned on, the cell phone company can track a GPS signal even with the cell turned off.

    Read more: How to Ping Your Cell Phone to Locate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6296518_ping...#ixzz1t5lq8gWD

    All U.S.-manufactured cell phones made after 2005 have a GPS tracking device. This became standard due to the events of 9/11.
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    Another thing that is bothering me is this quote by her mother
    Bordeaux told her family that she had planned to drink Friday night and had arranged to have friends take her home, her mother Johnna Henson said.
    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...erson-case-bar

    I may not speak to my mom every day, but if I had told her something like this, I can guarantee you she would be checking up on me the next day, if only to find out about my night out drinking.

    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanemsmom View Post
    Another thing that is bothering me is this quote by her mother


    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...erson-case-bar

    I may not speak to my mom every day, but if I had told her something like this, I can guarantee you she would be checking up on me the next day, if only to find out about my night out drinking.

    MOO
    That bothere me as well. That's why I think Kelli didn't go alone to the bar that night, or at least met people there. Either that, or she was attempting to make her mom feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/...0?sac=fo.local

    So where does SC claim ownership? He isn't on the lease ,or the ABC papers . So I guess it is just something he says?
    He did not necessarily have to have his name on either the lease or ABC papers to be the owner. I believe that his information was tracked down by someone here, in the N.C Secretary of State business listing.

    Also while I was checking for various people's names in the N.C Court records, I did find a listing for 1 civil document under the name of Kelli Bordeaux. I was not able to see exactly what the document was but it could have been her separation papers. Personally I believe that Kelli and Mike were separated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/...0?sac=fo.local

    So where does SC claim ownership? He isnt on the lease ,or the ABC papers . So I guess it is just something he says?
    He must be a silent owner/partner to ensure they were able to get their liquor license. Not to mention it probably helped him avoid getting caught for the DUI and child support payments. The other owner listed in the article owns a vending company that provides ATMs, Slots, Pool Tables, Jukeboxes, etc to bars and similar establishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melly53 View Post
    He did not necessarily have to have his name on either the lease or ABC papers to be the owner. I believe that his information was tracked down by someone here, in the N.C Secretary of State business listing.

    Also while I was checking for various people's names in the N.C Court records, I did find a listing for 1 document under the name of Kelli Bordeaux. I was not able to see exactly what the document was but it could have been her separation papers. Personallly I believe that Kelli and Mike were separated.
    I agree that they seem to have been separated, but that doesn't necessarily mean a legal separation was filed. I think had their been one filed it would have been reported by now, but maybe I am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/...0?sac=fo.local

    So where does SC claim ownership? He isnt on the lease ,or the ABC papers . So I guess it is just something he says?
    Mandy is listed as owner and i believe they live at the same address.

    $2,500.00 and some dollars isnt all that much as i see it!

    What do they do with their money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Mandy is listed as owner and i believe they live at the same address.

    $2,500.00 and some dollars isnt all that much as i see it!

    What do they do with their money?
    My guess is that this is an attempt to get the tenants out of there. $2500 should be easy enough for the owners to come up with. However since the eviction notice also lists damages as a reason it seems like they are trying to not make it easy for the owners to just pay the back rent and stay in the establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Mandy is listed as owner and i believe they live at the same address.

    $2,500.00 and some dollars isnt all that much as i see it!

    What do they do with their money?
    That makes Mandy a bar owner. Her address is listed as froggy bottoms on the court filing ,interesting she used it as a home address and Nick did not think of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melly53 View Post
    He did not necessarily have to have his name on either the lease or ABC papers to be the owner. I believe that his information was tracked down by someone here, in the N.C Secretary of State business listing.

    Also while I was checking for various people's names in the N.C Court records, I did find a listing for 1 civil document under the name of Kelli Bordeaux. I was not able to see exactly what the document was but it could have been her separation papers. Personally I believe that Kelli and Mike were separated.
    Where were they married at N.C or Flordia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    Where were they married at N.C or Flordia?
    I saw their marriage license in the Osceola county public records the other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedawg77 View Post
    My guess is that this is an attempt to get the tenants out of there. $2500 should be easy enough for the owners to come up with. However since the eviction notice also lists damages as a reason it seems like they are trying to not make it easy for the owners to just pay the back rent and stay in the establishment.
    I think you are right!
    the guy owes 400 grand ...

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    VOH, remember back when you first got on here, there was a young lady that had "friended" KB on facebook. You stated that it was a bartender at Froggy's. May I ask, were they friends? I mean real friends as in from the past perhaps?
    Was Friday the only Karaoke night at Froggy's or was it other nights too? TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    That makes Mandy a bar owner. Her address is listed as froggy bottoms on the court filing ,interesting she used it as a home address and Nick did not think of it.
    she owns another bar the something saloon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    That bothere me as well. That's why I think Kelli didn't go alone to the bar that night, or at least met people there. Either that, or she was attempting to make her mom feel better.
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    VOH said Nick left the bar to go pick Kelli up!

    I asked if she called Nick or called the bar.
    VOH couldnt ans.

    I was wondering if she called the bartender or the bar phone and they asked nick to go get her?
    then when she wanted to go home he takes her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    she owns another bar the something saloon!
    Is the Waguespack guy listed on that as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    I think you are right!
    the guy owes 400 grand ...
    Based on what other commercial property leases for in the area, I am going to guess that it is a single month's rent they are behind on. I think this has more to do with the (building) owner's building coming under scrutiny due to this investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    Is the Waguespack guy listed on that as well?
    I have to go see if i can find that page again!

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    Here is the vending company I believe he owns (Waguespack).

    http://www.capefearvending.com/prosite/

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedawg77 View Post
    Here is the vending company I believe he owns (Waguespack).

    http://www.capefearvending.com/prosite/
    I never saw his name just SC and Mandy her pics ore on the poindexters
    page her and steve

    they live on LYnn Ave in Fayetteville, is that close to the bar?

    I wish i could find where i read it there is another saloon she owns.
    and i cant remember the name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    I never saw his name just SC and Mandy her pics ore on the poindexters
    page her and steve

    they live on LYnn Ave in Fayetteville, is that close to the bar?

    I wish i could find where i read it there is another saloon she owns.
    and i cant remember the name!
    Is it Poindexters Saloon maybe? I'm not certain either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    Where were they married at N.C or Flordia?
    They were married in Florida, but the civil document I found was in North Carolina.(Cumberland County) I know there is a one year waiting period before you can get divorced in N.C so they may have filed it to protect themselves. It would lay out the terms of their divorce such as the division of assets and list who was responsible for which debts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WideOpen View Post
    I really like your post because it actually stopped me in my thoughts and brought to our attention something I hadnt thought of-all bolded above. I totally agree with this.
    I am bothered by the fact that she was missing 60 hours or 2 1/2 days and no one was worried or alarmed that they couldnt reach her. She did not respond to text or return calls? Her husband, friends in Fla. co-workers and associates, siblings and mother went over two days without a sound from her. I just cant believe no one sent someone over to the apartment to check on her. Mike could have called a neighbor or co-worker. Did Kelli and her husband have any friends here or was she lonely and isolated?
    No one noticed her absence.
    I am being snarky but no wonder she was hanging out at Froggys.
    JMO
    I don't think it is suspicious at all that nobody reported her missing before Monday. If her and her husband were separated, maybe they weren't talking every day. Or maybe he just thought she was mad and avoiding him. I talk to my mom almost every day, but if she didn't hear from me for two days, there's no way she would report me missing. Same with friends - they would all assume I was just busy and would get back to them. Now a week, and people would probably start to worry. And f I didn't show up to work without calling, that would be an immediate red flag. So, in the event that my husband and I separated and I went missing, I can totally see my job being the first to report me missing.

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