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    17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    I thought that some of the first Officers on the scene attempted CPR, and he would have had to be turned over for that, but I thought this picture was taken before other Officers and first responders arrived, at about three minutes after the shooting, but Perhaps they had arrived although I don't know how anyone would see powder burns on the hoodie if they were attempting cpr...so I guess it's kind of a mystery. Powder burns on the back of his hoodie would be really BIG news though.
    The time of the photograph being taken doesn't have to align with the person viewing the "powder burns" or whatever they saw. One could have occurred earlier or later than the other. I don't think he said, "As I was taking the picture, I saw powder burns." Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Seems GZ was also a victim of an assault when living in Manassas, VA

    http://manassas.patch.com/articles/g...lt-in-manassas

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    @MooCow: I think the coded locks that posters were discussing were on the gates to the walk in path and the two entrance to the actual community. I don't know about the actual doors to the homes and if they even make those for the porch entries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercuriod View Post
    Seems GZ was also a victim of an assault when living in Manassas, VA

    http://manassas.patch.com/articles/g...lt-in-manassas
    Yes, GZ gets himself into so many altercations. Could it be that he uses words or actions that just push all the wrong buttons on so many people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    The time of the photograph being taken doesn't have to align with the person viewing the "powder burns" or whatever they saw. One could have occurred earlier or later than the other. I don't think he said, "As I was taking the picture, I saw powder burns." Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    I never made any presumption that the actions were simultaneous, but unless the person taking the picture was LE, I have a hard time believing that they were allowed to linger around an active crime scene and not made to leave, so there would be a limited amount of time to actually see a lot of things such as the powder burns and stuff, and that is only if no one was attempting cpr at the time, and if the body had NOT been turned and they were not attempting cpr then Trayvon was found on his stomach...and powder burns are usually in close proximity to the wound, not on the other side of the body...so how did they see those powder burns??? As I said before, it is a mystery...IMO JMHO and stuff.

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    so was he the assaulter or the assaultee? The article says he was the victim of an assault but "he was never listed as an offender or suspect."

    http://manassas.patch.com/articles/g...lt-in-manassas



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    dr. Fessel- thread closed before I submitted my reply.
    I don't know. I wonder how he checked the boxes when it came to race.

    Off content topic, but IMO this reporter deserves admiration for investigating and researching. I wonder if he's a ws poster? .

    Has it really taken this long for anyone to really do an investigative report on GZ? Looking deeper into his background to get the bigger picture and not just the quick sensationalized negative, or positive?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html
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    Where are all the post about the Manassas "assault?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrienne37 View Post
    so was he the assaulter or the assaultee? The article says he was the victim of an assault but "he was never listed as an offender or suspect."

    http://manassas.patch.com/articles/g...lt-in-manassas



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    That confused me as well. Is Sgt. Rivera just remembering this off the top of his head from 11 years ago since he's not listed on a report?

    http://manassas.patch.com/articles/g...lt-in-manassas

    "Manassa City Police Sgt. Eddie Rivera said one-time Manassas resident George Zimmerman was a victim of an assault in 2001, but he was never listed as an offender or suspect."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    I never made any presumption that the actions were simultaneous, but unless the person taking the picture was LE, I have a hard time believing that they were allowed to linger around an active crime scene and not made to leave, so there would be a limited amount of time to actually see a lot of things such as the powder burns and stuff, and that is only if no one was attempting cpr at the time, and if the body had NOT been turned and they were not attempting cpr then Trayvon was found on his stomach...and powder burns are usually in close proximity to the wound, not on the other side of the body...so how did they see those powder burns??? As I said before, it is a mystery...IMO JMHO and stuff.
    According to the police report, one officer was securing Zimmerman and the other two were administering CPR. It doesn't seem to me like it would be unreasonable to say that someone could have been watching and there wasn't anyone free to secure the actual scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    dr. Fessel- thread closed before I submitted my reply.
    I don't know. I wonder how he checked the boxes when it came to race.

    Off content topic, but IMO this reporter deserves admiration for investigating and researching. I wonder if he's a ws poster? .

    Has it really taken this long for anyone to really do an investigative report on GZ? Looking deeper into his background to get the bigger picture and not just the quick sensationalized negative, or positive?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html
    The reporter should have named the source or said the type of source it was that gave the information for the graduation stuff. I find it very questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just K View Post
    @MooCow: I think the coded locks that posters were discussing were on the gates to the walk in path and the two entrance to the actual community. I don't know about the actual doors to the homes and if they even make those for the porch entries.
    It came up during a discussion of Martin needing a key to get into the home, so I assume that's what was meant.

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    Putting aside the early report of an assault in Virginia....
    GZ has a long standing history of getting into altercations. I wonder if he just keeps pushing his views, his will, his desires, etc onto people until he pushes just the right buttons?

    Actually, if I were to guess, I believe he forces his opinions, will and desires onto other people when they have already asked him to stop, go away, leave them alone, whatever the situation warranted.

    Even that dang mentorship has me thinking the same. With a background in social work and education, every professional mentor program that I have learned of has very distinct program rules & regs. If a program disbands, usually the volunteers are well aware that they are not to further the mentorship privately. A friend was actually terminated from a mentor program because he met with the kids outside of his scheduled volunteer arrangement. GZ may have signed the same type of contract...that is if this were any type of formal program, public or private.

    The rules are meant to protect the agency, the volunteer and the clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    According to the police report, one officer was securing Zimmerman and the other two were administering CPR. It doesn't seem to me like it would be unreasonable to say that someone could have been watching and there wasn't anyone free to secure the actual scene.
    So you think powder burns would have been evident to a lay person on a dark gray jacket after the person had been laying on their stomach with a bullet hole in them?

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