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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    They had him at gunpoint while he lay dying on the ground?

    I know they have to be safe, but that's sad!
    he was on his stomach they could not see the gunshot wound...

    and in response to the idea that they would tell people to leave and they just wouldn't, well in my neck of the woods those people would break out in handcuffs and find themselves taking a ride right along with GZ...Our PD does not PLAY... when they tell you to clear the area it's not a suggestion and they aren't joking.


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    I'd like to know how much money changed hands over the article and the photographs? It's very funny to me that it all comes out just days after his family having to pay $15,000 for his bond.



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    Quote Originally Posted by suzihawk View Post
    http://manassas.patch.com/articles/g...lt-in-manassas

    Manassa City Police Sgt. Eddie Rivera said one-time Manassas resident George Zimmerman was a victim of an assault in 2001, but he was never listed as an offender or suspect.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/geor...trayvon-martin

    According to Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera, at the age of 17 or 18 Zimmerman was the victim of a minor criminal assault. The Washington Post reports the cityís computer records donít provide details of the crime that occurred in 2001.
    Why would he be listed as an offender or suspect if he was a victim?

    I already explained what I believe the second part means.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    Sure looks like Reuters bought a bunch of pictures. Copyrighted them too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html
    So, who got paid for the pix, and is George still indigent?


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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    What would they do if an onlooker did not move from the area immediately, but did after the second or third time being told? They were busy, and may have been issuing verbal commands. That doesn't mean anyone was listening to them. The two giving CPR couldn't legally stop until relieved, and the third officer was securing a shooting suspect who was armed. It doesn't take someone standing there for five minutes to see them roll Martin over.
    How secure was that shooting suspect if he was on his phone and posing for a picture? No handcuffs? Doesn't sound very secure to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mercuriod View Post
    How secure was that shooting suspect if he was on his phone and posing for a picture? No handcuffs? Doesn't sound very secure to me.
    Has it been incontrovertibly shown that the police were present at the time of the photograph?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambrosia View Post
    From closed thread.

    Listen to the tone/change in Zimmerman's voice from the start to the end of the 911 call. It starts out to dispatch he's concerned and worried, as it continues he became angry and swearing, (this guy could get away). By the time he talks about giving his address, (this is near the end of the tape where I think he saw Martin and where I stated I heard the other voice that came through in the background on the tape.) And when he quietly and calmly says: "yeah, you got it" to the dispatch, all the concern, worry and anger seems to be gone from his tone. Maybe he was using the moment as a form of defense and part of his alibi? There wasn't much time left and to me he sounded sure of himself at that point. Like a jungle cat. He was armed, he was hidden, was watching, yet could not be seen and within seconds he would end his phone call and they would come face to face. This was his story and the call to dispatch was all part of making sure they would believe his version. A slam dunk. What could go wrong?
    Trayvon being on the phone with his girlfriend is what went wrong. He didn't realize that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    What leads you to believe this? I'm only seeing that he attempted to make contact with the subject. Smith's the only one mentioning having someone at gunpoint from what I see.

    Trayvon has his hands under him, nobody knew if Trayvon was alive or dead. He could have been laying there with a gun in his hands. If there was no worry then Ayala would have gone up to him and checked for a pulse. Instead he waits for Raimondo to show up and check him while he keeps him covered. IMO


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    Wouldn't Zimmerman have been a minor then?



    Quote Originally Posted by JBean View Post
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar...erman-20120323

    All was not easy in Virginia. In high school, Zimmerman was the victim of a minor criminal assault, Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera told the newspaper. No other details were available.
    " When ever you find yourself on the side of majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    Has it been incontrovertibly shown that the police were present at the time of the photograph?
    We know what time the police arrived on the scene and we know what time the picture was taken so I'd think it's safe to assume that they were there when the photo was taken.



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    Quote Originally Posted by elementary View Post
    So, who got paid for the pix, and is George still indigent?


    I would imagine it was part of the deal to pay OMara.


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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    Has it been incontrovertibly shown that the police were present at the time of the photograph?
    Which begs the question, if the police were not present at the time of the photo then how did the photographer see the powder burns on TM's hoodie, since he was on his stomach...IF the Officer did his job and told him to clear the area as soon as he discovered that he was not a part of the scene ?

    Just the little nit picky stuff,



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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrienne37 View Post
    Trayvon being on the phone with his girlfriend is what went wrong. He didn't realize that.


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    Trayvon being from a home in the neighborhood, rather than a random ****, also went wrong.

    IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by rossva View Post
    Wouldn't Zimmerman have been a minor then?
    Most likely, unless he had already turned 18.


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    Quote Originally Posted by m00c0w View Post
    Has it been incontrovertibly shown that the police were present at the time of the photograph?
    I don't think so.

    And just jumping off your post...

    He wasn't posing for the picture IMO.
    It was of the back of his head.
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