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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabelle View Post
    About the video tape from the security company: do we know when LE obtained it?

    Yes. The police spent 5 hours Saturday morning with Moore reviewing tapes in the store. They took a copy with them according to Moore. Then the police came back on Monday to get a tape from 10 pm Friday night to 9 am Saturday morning

    KVOA Is surveillance video key to solving missing girl investigation?

    Reposting story on surveilance video from Moore Security-- to refresh -- this is a business with cameras on the back of the store that recorded traffic on the small side street to the right of Celis home (where Celis' block ends) the day/night Isa went missing. Moore believes the cameras could have captured something important such as license plates, other activity in the area (from the other side of block to North) time frame. The police have video.

    This business is to the North of Celis' home on
    Broadway. It appears that the camera(s) on the back of the store recorded foot and vehicle traffic from the side street to west of Celis' home, and parking lot across the street and east of Celis' home. [My written description seems confusing to me, so I've attached a map that shows where Moore cameras recorded in relation to the Celis neighborhood.]
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    I also noticed that the Office Max is the closest business on the west side of the Celis home close to that side street. I wonder if Office Max has cameras on the back of their building. Cameras there might capture part of the alleyway behind the Celis' home.


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    Hey everyone- I'm new here. THis case and the Caleigh Harrison case in Rockport, MA pulled me in. I'm praying for Isa constantly.

    Anyway, fwiw, I wanted to chime in about work shifts for nurses. I work for a hospital (admin), but I also spent A LOT of time in the hospital while my mom was dying of cancer. The hospitals we work for/had her treatments at have mid shifts- 12p-12a or 11a-11p.



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    Good morning, Everyone!

    I am not convinced when the neighbor heard the dogs barking that it had anything to do with Isa being abducted. By 6:30 am people can start milling around and a lot of people have to work on Saturdays.

    So I feel it may have just been two workers in the area talking with each other.

    If any of the neighbors work in one of the businesss behind Isa's home they could just walk to work.

    But I am intrigued about the dog or dogs getting loose just one week before Isa went missing. If the dogs were prone to get out of the fence then I would think there would be an habitual record of that happening but this seems to be the only time.

    So how did the dog get loose and what time did they realize they werent in the fence? Did someone let the dog or the larger dog out on purpose when they werent there or were asleep? Were they trying to elimate their risks? Or were they plannng on doing it that day and the dogs came out of the gate when they opened it? Or did they let the dogs out when they opened the gate late in the night so they could peer into the windows in order to find Isa's bedroom?

    I dont know, but something about the dogs being able to get out of the yard just a week before nags me for some reason. It just makes me feel that whoever this is was already staking the home out.

    So did they start putting the dogs inside at night to make sure they did not get out of the fence?

    Just somethngs that nags at me for some reason.

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    If there was activity on the security cameras, why doesn't le release those images to the public so if someone knows the person or car(s) involved they can have those checked out? I don't understand why they would sit on that?


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    So according to this neighbor, all dogs are going crazy at 6:30am. By this time it is light out. Isa's mother is probably getting ready to go to work, or has just left. And yet nobody bothered to check why the dogs were going nuts? Kidnapper breaks in and takes Isa in broad daylight? Does that not make sense to anyone else?



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    welcome manda622


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    Quote Originally Posted by manda622 View Post
    Hey everyone- I'm new here. THis case and the Caleigh Harrison case in Rockport, MA pulled me in. I'm praying for Isa constantly.

    Anyway, fwiw, I wanted to chime in about work shifts for nurses. I work for a hospital (admin), but I also spent A LOT of time in the hospital while my mom was dying of cancer. The hospitals we work for/had her treatments at have mid shifts- 12p-12a or 11a-11p.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaTeresa View Post
    Even after the case is solved, parents are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
    OT - sorry, but as a somewhat local who followed this story and family it is always in my mind and he has been outed as what he truly is and I just can't fathom anyone defending him.

    not him - IMO he is a horrible person, just google what was found on his computer and how he got his son from being on the sex offender registery.


    so they family is allowed to go back to their home and choosing not to or are they being kept from their home?


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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    This may have been covered already but I have a few questions.
    1. Was this mom's normal routine on weekends when she had to go into work early? Such as did she always leave without checking in on kids.

    2. What about the 10 and 14 yo? Have they been questioned? I have a 14yo ds who is a nightowl on a friday night. He plays video games and creeps around in the kitchen for snacks really late at night.

    3. Did we ever find out when trash pick up was? I think Saturday morning would be an odd pickup day, but maybe that was the voices the neighbor heard?

    4. Did Isa ever sleep in her parents rooms or get up in the middle of the night to sleep in their room? Both my kids would do this up until about 10. Heck my 10yo dd still sleeps with me if dad is out of town.

    1. We have not heard much in the way of case-specific details. We don't know mom's normal routine.
    2. The police have questioned all of the family.
    3. Municipal trash pick up for plastic home containers in that neighborhood is on Thursdays. However, the house is surrounded by commercial properties that have dumpsters. LE has stated in pressers that there was some form of trash pick up on Saturday in the neighborhood, hence searching the landfill.
    The neighbor claims the voices seemed outside her bedroom window. Her window faces a wall that is the wall on the east side of the Celis' yard. I suppose voices could carry from the alleyway or side street, a backyard away. IDK
    4. We have not heard about Isa's sleeping habits except for NG's claim that she slept in her brothers' room.

    That's what I know, for what it's worth. Good questions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    If there was activity on the security cameras, why doesn't le release those images to the public so if someone knows the person or car(s) involved they can have those checked out? I don't understand why they would sit on that?
    did you follow the Samantha case? the girl missing from Alaska - they have video as well and didn't release it. As much as we all would like to see it, we have to have faith that they are holding it for some reason.


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    Perhaps someone could help me out.

    I am a bit confused about the Celis Family wanting or needing police protection.
    Is that common in missing children cases?

    It seems they are afraid about something happening if they return home.
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    I don't know what to make of the neighbor and voices, either; except that it sounds as though the dogs were in the backyard from the neighbors statement. Did the dogs stay there nightly? Would not they bark at anything all night if that were true? Certainly if someone entered their territory.

    If the dogs were outside, I would have a whole new set of questions. Did the mom let them out before she left for work, which might suggest she left for work earlier than 6:30 am? If the Mom left at 7:30 as reported, why did she not call dogs "going nuts" at 6:30 am back in the house?

    None of it is making any sense to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lillygator View Post
    did you follow the Samantha case? the girl missing from Alaska - they have video as well and didn't release it. As much as we all would like to see it, we have to have faith that they are holding it for some reason.
    Same thing in Kenia's case - they had surveillance video of her in a lobby of a building. They had surveillance video of Travis wheeling the cooler into the freezer, etc. I was really surprised at how much information they had after his arrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dushi View Post
    Perhaps someone could help me out.

    I am a bit confused about the Celis Family wanting or needing police protection.
    Is that common in missing children cases?

    It seems they are afraid about something happening if they return home.

    Could they be afraid of the media?
    They were not the type to get in front of the camera right away. They said "no" to media essentially for days.


    I do understand that, but in the case of missing children, I want to think a parent's plea on camera right away is a good move, just in case the child is being held by someone?


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