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    What is the location of this video, is that near their house?
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    I was up until midnight last night watching that video. I saw everything you guys did. I showed my husband this morning and he saw it too.

    Originally, my mind was going to the parents - BUT I am changing my mind. I dreamed about this all night. I am NOT psychic, but sometimes when I lose something I dream about it and I get up in the morning and go right to it. In my dream she is alive, she is in the back of a van that has no carpet. Her hands and feet are tied and she is blindfolded. I can only see the backs of the heads of the two men. One driving, one in the passenger seat. The driver has a shaved head and the passenger is a younger man/boy, maybe a teenager (I don't think he is really there of his free will either, but the shaved head man is in control). They are first driving through flat sandy areas (dessert?), then they are driving into mountains. There are trees around and the road is not paved. In the dream they stop several times for food or gas? In my dream it is a straight line they are driving, like with points on it? I dunno, again I am not psychic or anything, but I woke up feeling like I just had to put this out there somewhere - like I was seeing things through her perspective? She might still be alive. I hope so badly she is.

    Have we heard that any of the 5 have contacted LE?

    Thanks for reading my ramblings.....

    I wish the parents would speak again in case she is in a motel and can hear the tv and the voices of her parents speaking to her....


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    From Nancy Grace show Friday: "Now, in addition to that, the car drove home by again past us. The grandparents live at the end of this street. The car parked there. Three people got out. "

    I didn't know before that the grandparents live at the end of this street!!!!! They are in Isa's daily life and THEY are not on-camera pleading?????

    I am from a Hispanic family and I can tell you that this is VERY culturally significant to me. Do the abuelos feel the need to protect someone else? In our family it would be most likely be a male offspring -- my aunties are strongly loyal to the boys no matter what.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabelle View Post
    Sorry, but their home is in a horrible location for residential property.
    Would there have been an additional cost for the corner lot? We see that here in new-build subdivisions. Prospective homeowners will pay a premium for a corner lot so that they only have one nextdoor neighbor. Corner lots usually provide the option of a side-entrance garage that has "curb appeal", and the corner properties seem to be larger than a typical lot in a subdivision.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAXIMUS View Post


    If the cartels were involved everyone would know it by now, they dont take kids to molest them they take them (and it is RARE that they takes kids to begin with) but when they do they do it to SEND A MESSAGE, if this was drug related you and everyone else would know about it by now for sure, the cartels are professionals, they work for a billion dollar industry and they dont do things half-assed, if this were them they would have made it known from day one.

    Yes we are in Tucson and close to the border but people make way too much about drug cartel violence here, yes it happens but this isnt El Paso folks.
    I wasn't thinking cartel, but someone trading Isabel for drugs on a personal basis.. Again, just brainstorming out loud... I just don't see this as a stranger abduction, We can all agree that statistics show how rare those are. That leaves someone close to or within the family, and that leaves only a very few 'reasons' for someone taking Isabel...


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    Have the Spanish TV stations in Tucson been covering this case? I'm assuming they have. I wonder if Isa's grandparents or other extended family members have spoken to any of the Spanish stations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAXIMUS View Post
    What is the location of this video, is that near their house?
    The video is taken right near the Saint Joseph Catholic Church which is exactly 0.4 miles from the house, according to Google maps.


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    This case seems very lucky to have so many security cameras. I am sure this will be solved soon. I really hope with a good ending.


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    Quote Originally Posted by liltexans View Post
    Have the Spanish TV stations in Tucson been covering this case? I'm assuming they have. I wonder if Isa's grandparents or other extended family members have spoken to any of the Spanish stations.
    The Spanish media has picked up the case (and flyers have even been made and posted throughout town in Spanish as well) but as of last night I haven't seen any of Isabel's extended family except her uncle (earlier this week) say anything to the media.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MvD View Post
    I wasn't thinking cartel, but someone trading Isabel for drugs on a personal basis.. Again, just brainstorming out loud... I just don't see this as a stranger abduction, We can all agree that statistics show how rare those are. That leaves someone close to or within the family, and that leaves only a very few 'reasons' for someone taking Isabel...
    Yea I agree with you, I am finding it increasingly difficult to believe this was a random abduction by a stranger. It just doesnt add up.
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    One more thing about the video (sorry for so many posts - this video is bugging me). If you watch the figure in the video, they appear to move along the fence one way, then circle back towards the area they came from. Like they got up to check if the 5 were gone and returned back the other direction. It's weird, makes me wonder if they were alone.
    It's only my opinion. But sometimes the truth hurts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAXIMUS View Post
    What is the location of this video, is that near their house?
    There are maps showing the location of the walkers in relation to the Celis home on page 1 of this thread.
    It is close. The shadowy figure on the other side of the wall is in the Office Max parking lot. The Office Max building, a wall, and a side street are between the shadowy figure and the back side wall of the Celis backyard.

    There is a person. Now, I have yet to find the Presser @6 pm yesterday that I missed, but posters who did watch say that TPD said they spoke to everyone else in the video, and they were looking for the five walkers.

    This shadowy figure is right by the brick wall that separates the Office Max shopping area from the church parking lot. The walkers continue from the church parking lot onto Cooper Street. This parking lot is lined up with Cooper.
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    Does anyone know what time the presser for today is?


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    I believe 2 pm, but I want to check the last presser in the last thread anyway, so I will correct this post if I am wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof View Post
    I believe 2 pm, but I want to check the last presser in the last thread anyway, so I will correct this post if I am wrong.
    When you check the presser from yesterday will you double check what the Chief said about the video. e.g. that they had interviewed everyone in the video except the five people? Thank you and I will buy you a cup of coffee.
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