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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothOperator View Post
    Question. If Moore has no view of the Celis home how exactly would he have seen 2 males emerge from the home just after 8am?..obviously hecouldnt.. moo that alone is proof Moore has a camera view that allows him to have seen 2 men emerge from the home..
    Okay, to answer my own question in my other reply to your post. I pulled the NG Transcript of her interview with Moore

    He said
    "But coincidentally, the cameras are looking right over in this area. We`ve got a couple cameras that are facing the alleyway, and then one that happens to see right towards the street that Isabel lives on."

    The alleway he's speaking of is actually the alleyway behind the two story house on the opposite side of 12th street and the side street that runs between the Shoe Pavillion/Office Max to the west of the Celis home and the Celis home.

    The second camera he mentions aims toward the other side of the two story house obstruction, through a parking lot so it can see the Celis side of the street, but not the Celis home.

    He never states that he saw anyone exit the home.
    What he does state is

    "What we basically saw, the first people we saw on the street -- we did see some activity in the alleyway right behind us. But the police have all that evidence.

    What we saw right here was a couple of people walking up and down the street, Nancy. And we think that that was maybe the father and the brother. And then the police had us right at that moment cut off the digital recording, and they took that evidence and that`s when they took it away. So we think that that was just the father..."

    He's talking about the portion of 12 street visible through the parking lot, but that would not include the Celis house. It would include the houses to the east of the Celis home. He's talking about the alleyway that runs parallel to 12th behind his building.

    I hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkySifaka View Post
    lol i read it as boys are sleeping with their baseball bat coach, not their baseball bat, coach. Had this horrific image of a bat coach sleeping with the kids on the team.
    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that

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    Here's some of the transcript of Mr Moore on NG:

    snipped: But coincidentally, the cameras are looking right over in this area. We`ve got a couple cameras that are facing the alleyway, and then one that happens to see right towards the street that Isabel lives on.

    snipped for brevity:

    MOORE: What did I see?

    GRACE: Yes.

    MOORE: You know, we saw -- what we see is a lot of vehicles, Nancy. We did see some people coming through the alleyway. The cameras are trained right onto the alley, which leads right from where we`re standing right now. So we see cars coming in and out, a lot of vehicles, makes, models, color, things of that nature. And I`m sure that`s what the police are using to investigate it.

    We also saw some people wandering through the alley. Whether that`s pertinent information, I`m not sure. But it is information that the police took with them, and I`m sure they`re chasing down those leads.

    GRACE: Got it. OK, Rick, when you state that you see cars going by, you can see tag numbers, you can see people. What did you see around Isabel Celis`s home that Saturday morning around 8:00 AM?

    MOORE: You know, what we saw that morning -- again, it had been light for a little bit. What we basically saw, the first people we saw on the street -- we did see some activity in the alleyway right behind us. But the police have all that evidence.

    What we saw right here was a couple of people walking up and down the street, Nancy. And we think that that was maybe the father and the brother. And then the police had us right at that moment cut off the digital recording, and they took that evidence and that`s when they took it away. So we think that that was just the father...

    GRACE: So they did not let you see the rest of it?

    MOORE: No, ma`am, they did not. We don`t have it anymore.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../27/ng.01.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylynnCouture View Post
    He is an opera singer, however, I don't know if he's active. According to this site, his last performance was in 2002.

    http://www.azopera.com/performances....io_david_celis

    If you dig a little further you can find more. Trying to copy and paste but it is not working. He was in an opera in the 2008 season. Could not fine any after that. jmo
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    "We have limited information"

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    Tip Soft on TPD FB page

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    Received 28 tips today on 88-CRIME. Average of 8-10 tips per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof View Post
    Okay, to answer my own question in my other reply to your post. I pulled the NG Transcript of her interview with Moore

    He said
    "But coincidentally, the cameras are looking right over in this area. We`ve got a couple cameras that are facing the alleyway, and then one that happens to see right towards the street that Isabel lives on."

    The alleway he's speaking of is actually the alleyway behind the two story house on the opposite side of 12th street and the side street that runs between the Shoe Pavillion/Office Max to the west of the Celis home and the Celis home.

    The second camera he mentions aims toward the other side of the two story house obstruction, through a parking lot so it can see the Celis side of the street, but not the Celis home.

    He never states that he saw anyone exit the home.
    What he does state is

    "What we basically saw, the first people we saw on the street -- we did see some activity in the alleyway right behind us. But the police have all that evidence.

    What we saw right here was a couple of people walking up and down the street, Nancy. And we think that that was maybe the father and the brother. And then the police had us right at that moment cut off the digital recording, and they took that evidence and that`s when they took it away. So we think that that was just the father..."

    He's talking about the portion of 12 street visible through the parking lot, but that would not include the Celis house. It would include the houses to the east of the Celis home. He's talking about the alleyway that runs parallel to 12th behind his building.

    I hope that helps.
    Prof,
    Thank you for this. I would love to see that video... MOO

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    Video that went out. They have one individual who self identified. Hopefully identify the 4 others he was with

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    Video that went out,

    preliminarily, we have at least 1 individual who self-identified

    we have LEOs going out to interview him and hopefully identify the other 4 individuals
    Last edited by liltexans; 04-28-2012 at 05:17 PM.

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    Today, we still have detectives going out and following up on leads. US Marshalls are here. At least 13 members of the FBI still here assisting us.

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    8 to 10 tips per hour coming in


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    They are not at liberty to release much in the way of details about this case.

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    They saw the individual on the video. They had thoroughly analyzed the video before sending it out.

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    They are asking about the guy at top left. They saw that other person previously.

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    They thank everyone for the tips about the person in the video, but they were already aware the person was there.

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    Talking about assistance from cities in Sonora, Mexico. Checking business/industrial areas, bus terminals.

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    He thanked everyone for calling that (shadow figure) in or reporting it otherwise.
    They had known about that figure, and were interested in the other five walking through.
    So far one of the five has come forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof View Post
    Okay, to answer my own question in my other reply to your post. I pulled the NG Transcript of her interview with Moore

    He said
    "But coincidentally, the cameras are looking right over in this area. We`ve got a couple cameras that are facing the alleyway, and then one that happens to see right towards the street that Isabel lives on."

    The alleway he's speaking of is actually the alleyway behind the two story house on the opposite side of 12th street and the side street that runs between the Shoe Pavillion/Office Max to the west of the Celis home and the Celis home.

    The second camera he mentions aims toward the other side of the two story house obstruction, through a parking lot so it can see the Celis side of the street, but not the Celis home.

    He never states that he saw anyone exit the home.
    What he does state is

    "What we basically saw, the first people we saw on the street -- we did see some activity in the alleyway right behind us. But the police have all that evidence.

    What we saw right here was a couple of people walking up and down the street, Nancy. And we think that that was maybe the father and the brother. And then the police had us right at that moment cut off the digital recording, and they took that evidence and that`s when they took it away. So we think that that was just the father..."

    He's talking about the portion of 12 street visible through the parking lot, but that would not include the Celis house. It would include the houses to the east of the Celis home. He's talking about the alleyway that runs parallel to 12th behind his building.

    I hope that helps.
    This...THANK YOU!

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    We are not focusing on any one such avenue (such as narcotics). All options and angles are still on the table.

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    Reporter asking about a "stranger danger" incident on the East Side.

    LE is aware and thinks parents should talk with their children and report anything unusual.

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