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    I went ahead and sent a tip to the email I gave above about Jason K. Cannon being a possible match. I hope and pray that it is read in a timely manner and taken seriously and persued by investigators. I hope I get a response. If I do not, we should call whatever phone numbers we can find on both cases to suggest this tip, although I hate making phone calls. I do not want to let this one go. I haven't claimed the possible match to be my idea and I never will. If this is a match, and it is a big IF, then I will happily give you the just credit you deserve for thinking out of the box.

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    Help! I tried to summit a tip by email at the address I gave above, but it got returned to me, something about the recipient rejected it. :-( What email do I use to summit tips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    And there was this guy - Jason C. It's a very unusual surname.
    I visited a link posted later in this thread and it showed a Jason C. from W. Potomac who's name had been highlighted. If that's the name you're referring to, it's a pretty common name around south central VA. At least it used to be. There's even a drug store in my home town that carries the name.

    I'm going to try and contact some of my friends from college to see if any of them recognize this fellow. There were a lot of kids from NOVA that were part of the dead scene back in the 90's in my dorm.
    Linda Lunsford, missing since December 26, 1996
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...linda+lunsford

    April Pickens, missing since December 26, 2011
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=165823

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    Has Aron silverman been discounted, I could not see his name in the possible matches section. he disappeared in 1993 so two year before Jason Doe died, but it was thought possible he was a run away so it is not impossible he lived as a run away for a couple of years before being killed in the accident. I now his name is not Jason, but maybe that is a red herring: he could have given the girls a false name, someone else gave him the note, he piced it up from somewhere etc.

    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US

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    Height, weight, and eye color don't match / aren't close.
    It's possible he could have grown or gained weight, but I don't think he was wearing brown contacts when he was found.

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    ah, OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8truthseeker8 View Post
    I just "liked" the page and shared it with my friends (whom are mostly from VA and DC). Hoping that someone recognizes him or knows somebody who knows somebody that is missing a son and looking for him.
    Somewhere, buried in one of these threads about Jason, there is a comment from LE where they believe that Jason's family contacted them, apparently these folks asked specific questions that haven't/hadn't been released.

    I'm going to go back and see if I can find the actual qoute.

    Mel

    Found it. Main thread #1 post # 203

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    <Spoke w/ a ME once who told me that shortly after this death, they received a call they believe may have been the family of this boy.>

    <so, what did they say? were they able to confirm anything from this?>

    When this first happened, some physical characteristics weren't released to the public, as there was no need to initially. After the first media release occurred, they received a call from someone inquiring if the young man had these characteristics...

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    Hey, I submitted the match to doe network, said they would look into it, but you know how that goes. Still a tough one, with 180 some people already ruled out, at least we know that this case is definitely being worked on. I just don't understand some of the people that have been tested, when so many that are at the appropriate age have not. Anyways, I have narrowed the list down to 40 some more likely candidates.

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    here they are, some are way more likely than others. It wouldn't let me load my actual list, which includes age when missing, age in 1995, date missing, date of birth, location missing, namus #, hair & eye color, and brief description of scenario
    all of these missing guys fit into the age range of 13-24 in June 1995.

    NAME
    Aiello, Steven
    Allen, Marc J.
    Amato, Andrew
    Ayotte, Kevin J.
    Barclay, Nicholas P.
    Barnett, Richard R.
    Benetton, Soni M.
    Borer, David M.
    Bright, Jeremy D.
    Cantrell, Antreas C.
    Cerniglia, Paul A.
    Clark, Steven M.
    Collins, Kevin A.
    Crain, William S.
    Dabkowski, Jon M.
    Davison, Timothy J.
    Dollar, Burt O.
    Downey, William V.
    Eddings, Marty L.
    Edmonds, Jr, Charles D.
    Evans, Sean W.
    Fair, Curtis M.
    Francis, Charles C.
    Franko, Anthony B.
    Fritz, Robert J.
    Frye, Ronald
    Green, Jarrod D.
    Grice, Jeremy J.
    Guthrie, Timothy P.
    Hale, Shawn
    Hansen, Bradley B.
    Harrington, Dennis P.
    Heindenreich, Mike
    Henderson, Charles A.
    Henson, Royce
    Hollan Jr, Kelly
    Inman, John C.
    Inman, Tyler J.
    Izzett Jr., Donald L.
    Jackson, Danny R.
    Johnson, Paul W.
    Karis, Andrew
    Kellar, Robert L.
    Kleeschulte, Scott A.
    Krafft III, John L.
    Krebbs, Larry D.
    Lango, John F.
    Leach, Randy W.
    Lewis, Reuben M.
    Lusher, Jamie
    Mackerley, Louis A.
    Mahaffey, Joshua J.
    Martin, Eugene W.
    Martin, Mark S.
    McColl, Peter J.
    Mello, Patrick W.
    Minarcin, Gabriel
    Mort, Russell J.
    Narbonne, Taj
    Negrete, Jared M.
    Nuray, Cenzig H.
    Osborne, Jeffery D.
    Pate, Aaron M.
    Patz, Etan K.
    Rawls, Samuel R.
    Russo, Jason J.
    Salomon, Mitchel
    Sayegh, Cary D.
    Schwerman, Roger
    Seelman, Mark W.
    Seelman, Mark W.
    Simonelli, John
    Smith, Nicholas V.
    Swan, Christopher J.
    Theis, Tyrom
    Torres-Irizarry, Angel
    Wells, Joel
    Wetterling, Jacob E.
    Wright, Michael A.
    Yanez, Rene
    Zahn, Christoph
    Zeigler, Jonathan L.

    I have another list of less likely people. These people are all a little older, 25-30. If anyone is interested in either complete list, let me know.

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    Just to say, none of the men on the list have been ruled out, according to NAMUS.

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    Sorry, I keep posting, for some reason, Jason Cannon is not on the list that I previously posted, he definitely should be.

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    I know the stats are off for Jeffery D Osborne but some of his pictures look similar to the newer picture of 'Jason' specifically the ears! https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/8205/50

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    We would need to know if Osbourne had longer hair at the time, Doe was not found with glasses

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    NAMUS describes his hair as a short buzz cut, he probably should be taken off of my list as he disappeared after JD died, but sometimes people get dates wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefinder View Post
    here they are, some are way more likely than others. It wouldn't let me load my actual list, which includes age when missing, age in 1995, date missing, date of birth, location missing, namus #, hair & eye color, and brief description of scenario
    all of these missing guys fit into the age range of 13-24 in June 1995.

    NAME
    Aiello, Steven
    Allen, Marc J.
    Amato, Andrew
    Ayotte, Kevin J.
    Barclay, Nicholas P.
    Barnett, Richard R.
    Benetton, Soni M.
    Borer, David M.
    Bright, Jeremy D.
    Cantrell, Antreas C.
    Cerniglia, Paul A.
    Clark, Steven M.
    Collins, Kevin A.
    Crain, William S.
    Dabkowski, Jon M.
    Davison, Timothy J.
    Dollar, Burt O.
    Downey, William V.
    Eddings, Marty L.
    Edmonds, Jr, Charles D.
    Evans, Sean W.
    Fair, Curtis M.
    Francis, Charles C.
    Franko, Anthony B.
    Fritz, Robert J.
    Frye, Ronald
    Green, Jarrod D.
    Grice, Jeremy J.
    Guthrie, Timothy P.
    Hale, Shawn
    Hansen, Bradley B.
    Harrington, Dennis P.
    Heindenreich, Mike
    Henderson, Charles A.
    Henson, Royce
    Hollan Jr, Kelly
    Inman, John C.
    Inman, Tyler J.
    Izzett Jr., Donald L.
    Jackson, Danny R.
    Johnson, Paul W.
    Karis, Andrew
    Kellar, Robert L.
    Kleeschulte, Scott A.
    Krafft III, John L.
    Krebbs, Larry D.
    Lango, John F.
    Leach, Randy W.
    Lewis, Reuben M.
    Lusher, Jamie
    Mackerley, Louis A.
    Mahaffey, Joshua J.
    Martin, Eugene W.
    Martin, Mark S.
    McColl, Peter J.
    Mello, Patrick W.
    Minarcin, Gabriel
    Mort, Russell J.
    Narbonne, Taj
    Negrete, Jared M.
    Nuray, Cenzig H.
    Osborne, Jeffery D.
    Pate, Aaron M.
    Patz, Etan K.
    Rawls, Samuel R.
    Russo, Jason J.
    Salomon, Mitchel
    Sayegh, Cary D.
    Schwerman, Roger
    Seelman, Mark W.
    Seelman, Mark W.
    Simonelli, John
    Smith, Nicholas V.
    Swan, Christopher J.
    Theis, Tyrom
    Torres-Irizarry, Angel
    Wells, Joel
    Wetterling, Jacob E.
    Wright, Michael A.
    Yanez, Rene
    Zahn, Christoph
    Zeigler, Jonathan L.

    I have another list of less likely people. These people are all a little older, 25-30. If anyone is interested in either complete list, let me know.
    And there's a Jason on this list...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktgirl View Post
    And there's a Jason on this list...
    Jason Russo profile -

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6612/2/

    It looks like he was likely lost at sea with his father and friends.

    More info -

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/russo_jason.html

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    https://www.facebook.com/jim.colemissing?sk=wall

    This guy went missing in 1994 from Maryland. Looks similar.

    Eta...just noticed James cole was already ruled out.
    Last edited by Jujercu; 07-24-2012 at 11:57 PM. Reason: Noticed he was on the list of people ruled out.
    IMO.JMO.IMHO.MOO ....and sorry if it's been posted before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mels3kidz View Post
    Somewhere, buried in one of these threads about Jason, there is a comment from LE where they believe that Jason's family contacted them, apparently these folks asked specific questions that haven't/hadn't been released.

    I'm going to go back and see if I can find the actual qoute.

    Mel

    Found it. Main thread #1 post # 203

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by reb
    <Spoke w/ a ME once who told me that shortly after this death, they received a call they believe may have been the family of this boy.>

    <so, what did they say? were they able to confirm anything from this?>

    When this first happened, some physical characteristics weren't released to the public, as there was no need to initially. After the first media release occurred, they received a call from someone inquiring if the young man had these characteristics...

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    If his family called the ME, then why did they never call back and retrieve him and have a memorial?
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    By any remote chance, is anyone here a member at Oxford Ancestors? (I think you would have had to have your genealogy DNA test done through them to be a member.)

    They used to have their boards public a few years ago, but now you need to be a member to see them. That is where people compare their results to see if they are related somewhere down the line.

    I noticed we've been given a gift on the Grateful Dead John Doe....his DNA!

    LOCUS:
    D8S1179: 13,13
    D21S11: 30, 32.2
    TH01: 9, 9.3
    D13S317: 12, 13
    D19S433: 14, 14
    VWA: 14, 16
    TPOX: 8,8
    D18S51: 18, 19
    D5S818: 12, 12
    FGA: 22, 24

    The fact we know 10 loci is awesome. From what I've been able to tell so far (and this won't be a shock), his profile is the profile of someone who is pretty much as Caucasian as they come. I found a site that listed the frequency of different alleles among Scottish populations and his markers are among those found the most frequently in Scottish populations. That doesn't mean that he is Scottish. Since I was able to find some countries (Portugal for example, where he didn't match as well), but not others, for all I know he could be a better match to Irish, English, German, etc., etc. And even that isn't 100%, because these are frequencies and Caucasian ethnic groups have intermingled for so many years that there is a great deal of variation among people of the same ethnicity. Still, it was interesting because Virginia and its neighbors have a greater share of people with Scottish ancestry than the rest of the country. Many, many Scottish settled in that area of the U.S.

    My curiosity is piqued by the fact that at 4 of the 10 loci he has the same number from mother and father. I don't know that that is very common today. I wonder if there is someone we can ask who would know better than I how common that is. I wondered if it might indicate that he is from a very small town (maybe along Appalachia somewhere, or Pennsylvania Dutch country) where there would have been less genetic variance. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Eyes View Post
    By any remote chance, is anyone here a member at Oxford Ancestors? (I think you would have had to have your genealogy DNA test done through them to be a member.)

    They used to have their boards public a few years ago, but now you need to be a member to see them. That is where people compare their results to see if they are related somewhere down the line.

    I noticed we've been given a gift on the Grateful Dead John Doe....his DNA!

    LOCUS:
    D8S1179: 13,13
    D21S11: 30, 32.2
    TH01: 9, 9.3
    D13S317: 12, 13
    D19S433: 14, 14
    VWA: 14, 16
    TPOX: 8,8
    D18S51: 18, 19
    D5S818: 12, 12
    FGA: 22, 24

    The fact we know 10 loci is awesome. From what I've been able to tell so far (and this won't be a shock), his profile is the profile of someone who is pretty much as Caucasian as they come. I found a site that listed the frequency of different alleles among Scottish populations and his markers are among those found the most frequently in Scottish populations. That doesn't mean that he is Scottish. Since I was able to find some countries (Portugal for example, where he didn't match as well), but not others, for all I know he could be a better match to Irish, English, German, etc., etc. And even that isn't 100%, because these are frequencies and Caucasian ethnic groups have intermingled for so many years that there is a great deal of variation among people of the same ethnicity. Still, it was interesting because Virginia and its neighbors have a greater share of people with Scottish ancestry than the rest of the country. Many, many Scottish settled in that area of the U.S.

    My curiosity is piqued by the fact that at 4 of the 10 loci he has the same number from mother and father. I don't know that that is very common today. I wonder if there is someone we can ask who would know better than I how common that is. I wondered if it might indicate that he is from a very small town (maybe along Appalachia somewhere, or Pennsylvania Dutch country) where there would have been less genetic variance. Just a thought.
    Alternatively, I wonder if Oxford Ancestors would be interested in helping us with this....maybe they could check their message boards for us, and see if there is anyone there with similar results who might be interested in speaking with us. If it helped solve the case, that would be a cool bit of publicity for them, no???

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    Wow. I've been away from this forum for awhile and hadn't seen the updated composite. What a difference! Too bad this wasn't the image that was circulating 17 years ago, it does seem much more lifelike and is probably more accurate to how Jason appeared in life.

    Side note, I'm a bit perplexed after viewing the list of people who were ruled out as being Jason on Namus. Lots of these men were born in the 1950's and one even in the 1940's. Yet Jason's age is listed as being a maximum of 21 years when he died in 1995. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to think outside the box, just found it a bit surprising that so many were outside the age range by so many years.

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    I'm trying to find the "ruled out" list. Is Phillip John Koss on the list?

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/koss_phillip.html

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    The ruled out list is on the 'case information' section of the Namus page.
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/6095

    I don't see Phillip John Koss on there, and he does seem like a possibility. Good find!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beamie View Post
    does that tattoo look like this:

    http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia...Heartagram.gif

    it doesn't look like a regular star. it doesn't look "5-pointed." it looks like it has two parts: a heart and a triangle. am i crazy?

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