I'm going to repeat myself here, GZ has a head injury, but IMO it's because TM was defending himself from his attacker. TM was STANDING IS OWN GROUND!!! GZ had a gun, TM didn't, to me that speaks volumes. I'm still saddened by this case
This post is my opinion only, and is subject to making me look totally confused
I think it's safe to say he had a broken nose even though we have not seen pictures of a bloody nose or shirt.
The initial police report said he was bleeding from his nose.
And MO'M made it clear, during the bond hearing, that he has medical records that support the statement that GZ had a broken nose. I do not think he would have said that if he didn't.
Ok. Have you ever had your nose broken?
Have you ever had your nose fractured or broken.
You know that that was an injury that Mr. Zimmerman sustained correct?
I know that that is an injury that is reported to have sustained. I haven't seen any medical records to indicate that.
Have you asked him for them?
Have I asked him for them? No.
Do you want a copy of them?
Claim things with nothing to back them up, that's what defense attorneys do. Otherwise judges would not have to give the admonition that juries cannot consider what the attorneys say--on either side--to be evidence.
Be kind, for everyone is fighting a great battle.
I still say that it is possible that GZ hit himself in the head with his flashlight or gun...taking a fingernail size chunk out of his back, right and lower side of his scalp. Either that or TM was clawing his way away from the man with the gun.
When I was a kid back in the Mesozoic era, they came out with a fake blood product called "Vampire Blood."
For reasons I cannot now recall, I coveted this product. But when I finally got a tube, I was so disappointed. It didn't look like blood at all, but more like a sort of runny red Jello-like substance.
What bothers me about the picture is that the blood looks like my memories of Vampire Blood, down to the gel appearance.
JMO MOO yada yada.
ETA I've also cut myself shaving my legs countless times since the Mesozoic era, along with suffering from other bodily functions that I will not detail here, but suffice to say I know what real blood looks like and that isn't it. IMO.
I'll allow, however, that perhaps the lighting was bad.
Last edited by IzzyBlanche; 04-29-2012 at 10:19 PM. Reason: tyhpo
Be kind, for everyone is fighting a great battle.
Something just occurred to me:
Mary C and her roommate both said that GZ had both his hands up to his head. Maybe he grabbed his head, dug his own fingernails into his head and dragged the his fingers back toward his ears.
I wonder if LE took fingernail scrapings from under GZ's nails and if they found his own skin under his own nails?
Fingers crossed the EMTs took notes. Did GZ have any blood on his hands?
I admit the story about slipping out from under TM and sliding onto the grass is harder to understand. How does one do that without smearing the blood trails?
Why did this photographer only take a picture of his bleeding head and not his bleeding face?
Also, I think I want to make sure that the gun could not have caused GZ's broken nose. I'd like to see if there is a laceration on his nose or if it only bled out from inside his nose.
Justice for Trayvon
The GZ Head Boo-Boo -- who took the pic?
ABC News ...Video April 20
Zimmerman Injuries Seen in Exclusive Photo
~Video shows IPhone time stamp info
ABC News: Photo taken after Trayvon Martin shooting shows bloody George Zimmerman
Sources tell ABC News that investigators have seen the photograph and are aware of the photographer’s story.
The person who took the photograph told ABC News he heard Martin and Zimmerman fighting before the shooting and that after Martin was killed, Zimmerman asked the photographer to call Zimmerman’s wife, allegedly blurting out, “Man, just tell her I shot someone.”
GPS and other data embedded in the photo shows it was taken at the scene with an iPhone just three minutes after the shooting, according to ABC News.
Then we have other commentary from GZ 'constituents'
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../20/ng.01.htmlFirst of all, to you, Mr. Taaffe, do you believe it helped George Zimmerman to take the stand today?
TAAFFE: Absolutely. George is being George. Nancy, a couple weeks ago you wanted to see blood on a shirt. Now you have blood on the head. So, America, you have your blood. I`m also going to share with you this, that was a photo of George Zimmerman, and I know who the neighbor was that took it. And he came forward only to support George Zimmerman. And more of our neighbors are coming out --
GRACE: So, I`m taking it to believe --
TAAFFE: Are coming out to support him. They are going to support him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../27/ng.01.htmlJOE OLIVER, FRIEND OF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN: About his injuries? About his broken nose and about the gashes on the back of his head?
OLIVER: That they happened. We are efforting, rather, a picture that was taken by one of the police investigators on the scene on an iPhone before George was cleaned up to show the severity of the beating.
It didn't need to be proven. Opening statements are pretty much useless and the "facts" or "claims" don't have to be proven.
JB never offered documentation to support his claims. MO'M did. On official court record.
He has the medical records.