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    board is glitchy - double posted
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    OMG Tammi looks like she about 12 years old...if nothing else the jury has seen the many sides of Tammi based solely on her wardrobe. Stripper cleavage to demur lil' housewife to 12 year old and everything in between in just a matter of a few days. smh


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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlechiquita View Post
    which stream is best?
    AZ works the best for me.

    Who is paying for Tammi's lawyers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by noor View Post
    AZ works the best for me.

    Who is paying for Tammi's lawyers?
    The wonderful AZ taxpayers.


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    thanks momtec, that surprises me....


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    Quote Originally Posted by wenwe4 View Post
    The board has been really glitchy for me today . . anyone else having problems?
    Yes, it's lagging...when it appears to hang up and you can't see the post you just made, don't post again or you'll wind up with multiple posts. The post gets there it's just taking a few minutes to show up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noor View Post
    thanks momtec, that surprises me....
    Why? She's managed to manipulate everything else in this case, why not the entire State of Arizona. jmo


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    Quote Originally Posted by momtective View Post
    OMG Tammi looks like she about 12 years old...if nothing else the jury has seen the many sides of Tammi based solely on her wardrobe. Stripper cleavage to demur lil' housewife to 12 year old and everything in between in just a matter of a few days. smh

    Oh I agree 100%.
    What's up with that crazy ring she's wearing every day.....


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    We are back . . . jury is seated. State calling Patricia Ramirez, Det. -
    Ms. Andrews Atty for State - in Sex Crimes unit since 2007 (and vulnerable populations). Case Agent assigned - point of contact and manages the case and will see case through closure disposition. Case can end in arrest, or long form - sent to County Atty office for review, or case closed due to no more info or no info to support crime alleged. Ramirez is also responsible for assigning other officers to this case . . . there was a command staff involved, we have not heard from all LE who worked on this case. Extensive case w/written material over 5000 pages, Myspace had over 1000 pages, there are many other attachments not discussed or counted (objection for leading - sustained). Large binder on Atty desk is example of some of the info in this case but not all. Briefings with many other LE and there were daily updates of smaller briefings. (objection for leading - sustained . . . SA doesn't feel these are leading questions - Judge said try not to lead going forward). Working with command staff and delegating tasks to other Det's. High volume of tips came in Ncmec also involved initially. FBI assisted interviews out of state (ie: Tennessee), but did not take over this case. Mike Conrad is from FBI - background missing and abducted kids, represented the FBI - part of briefings and updates to local LE. Assistance from San Antonio LE, Boston, Miami Beach, Louisiana and others.

    EJ family members - Gma & Gpa (Rbt Johnson Sr aka Bob) - paternal Gpa lived in Scottsdale, EJ twin brother is Robert Johnson Jr - of Phoenix, and Sobett (sic) maternal Gma of Boston. Nothing with Tennessee connections found nor San Antonio nor Louisiana found for Baby Gabriel and people in those areas.

    This was unique case - don't have many missing/abducted children investigations, complex and unique. Approx under 500 officers in Tempe and 30 Detectives. Working extremely long hours - first day on this case 22 hrs and another day over 24 hrs - work days ranged 15+ hours on this case vs. 10 hr normal days prior to this case. Tammie is not facing charges for harm to Gabe (objection X3 - leading sustained others overruled)

    No info that TS ever wanted to harm Gabe in any way . . . no amber alert issued in this case due to criteria 1) have an abduction; 2) harm/serious danger to child; 3) under 17 y/o, and 4) enter into Ncic. Ramirez asked for amber alert . . . AZ and Texas declined requests . . . Tx seeing it as custodial interference problem. Texas declined request a 2nd time.

    Spoke w/TS in person, pointed out TS in court, formal sit downs w/TS four times, also spoke on other occassions and on phone in not formal situations - approx 8+ times. Spoke w/TS and recorded conversations on phone, and interviews in LE offices were recorded. Did not tell TS she was being recorded. Coversations could total 10+ hours if played in court - some of which they feel might be important.

    12/27/09 - Ramirez was on call that weekend, 4:30 pm call from on call Sargent, needed for missing child possible homicide investigation . . . trailer home in Tempe - EJ's home. She didn't go there but went to Tempe PD, participate in a briefing @ 6pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momtective View Post
    Why? She's managed to manipulate everything else in this case, why not the entire State of Arizona. jmo

    That's the truth.
    I'm surprised because I thought Tammi and her hubby had some money.
    I know they had a very nice house, and an other home in Tennessee (I believe)


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    Did anyone else hear a baby in that recording that was just played? And Tammi said stop it baby...I need you to go see Daddy please...wasn't H around 4-5 at that time? Certainly beyond the age of baby babbling.


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    sorry about all the double posts . . . every time I refreshed it would do that (unbeknownst to me) - I tried to delete them to not make this board so full
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    TS had met EJ @ church during the evening hours. . . on 12/27 more info about cell phone EJ was using tracking . . . 2 pc's and local 480 phone number . . . called 11:30 pm and spoke w/Soren Senesko, interviewed this person @ 11:55 pm. Attempts were made by Soren to EJ by phone, he dialed number but no response. The Dets were there til 1:00 am, at 3:00 am - contacted Maricopa Co. LE on behalf of Logan for Gabriel, due to EJ's earlier statements she had harmed him, to place Gabe in Logan's care. 3:30 - 4am went home . . . . got a nap - returned @ 10am Mon 29th.

    Around noon went to Soren's place of business - interviewed to see if contact with EJ, learned EJ did not appear to court with her son. Warrant issued for EJ, info in ACIC and NCIc, to alert Tempe PD and vehicle entered into system. Early after noon - 3pm - Logan called. Logan provided info about a recording . . . obtained from Logan on a later date. publish the recording from Logan. transcripts to jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momtective View Post
    Hmm... wonder where the cross is today....


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