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    Trial Thread, Weekend Discussion May 4-5, 2012 Waiting for Closing Arguments

    Trial Discussion Thread:

    reposting a few of the warnings:

    Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.

    Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.

    We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.

    Thank you,
    Salem

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    As some of you may have noticed, the members following this case are dropping in numbers. It's disheartening to us because we need and welcome discussion of both sides of every issue on Websleuths.

    Zero tolerance means ZERO tolerance. Please discuss this case with respect to your fellow members. Subtle and veiled harassment and/or talking in code about other members will not be tolerated.

    A word of caution on the Alerts in this forum. If you alert a post, make sure it is a clear violation of our Terms of Service. A difference of opinion is not a violation of TOS.

    Please note that everything discussed in court and printed/tweeted is now within the realm of discussion. WS has never and does not now have a policy of "innocent until proven guilty." That is for the court room. Here, we discuss, speculate, theorize and judge according to the opinions we develop from following the case.

    Keeping that in mind, abuse of our alert system is a good way to find yourself in timeout or worse. Abuse of the alert systems includes, but is not limited to:

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    Once you have alerted a post, move on and don't question the decisions of our Administrators, Moderators or Owners.

    Following this trial is very important to our members and we're going to see that they have their day in court. The "zero tolerance" policy in this forum will continue and it will be enforced.

    Thank you and please carry on.
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    Last edited by Salem; 05-03-2012 at 11:51 PM. Reason: Change title

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    Trial Thread, May 2, 2012 Defense's 2nd day at bat

    I'm creating the thread in advance, so not sure where the Defense stands right now. But this is day 2 of their case in chief.

    Salem

    ETA: Scratch the above. This thread is for the weekend before CLOSING ARGUMENTS begin. The case is wrapping up. Defense will give Closings on Monday, May 6th; Crown is scheduled to follow on Tues. May 7th, Jury Instructions on Wednesday & Thurs., May 8th & 9th and then the jury will begin deliberations.

    Praying for justice for Tori,

    Salem
    Last edited by Salem; 05-03-2012 at 11:53 PM.

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    *Bump*

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    Good Morning!





    I can't believe there is another delay!
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    I thought the defence was to do closing arguments today. No? When did that change?

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    I assume it was announced yesterday as thats when it was posted here.
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    I am behind..

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    Days and days and days of legal arguments.

    I don't recall in the US that legal arguments aren't public, and often they give a more complete understanding of why the Crown asked this or the defense didn't ask that.

    It is really too bad, Canadians aren't considered mature enough to watch the trial live.

    Big "nanny" state in Canada.

    We are the government..........you have nothing to fear..............

    JMO.......

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    This is a REMINDER - Do NOT BASH any member of the family. Do NOT insinuate that any member of the family is responsible for what happened to Victoria. It will NOT BE TOLERATED.

    Unless or until such a charge can be confirmed by media or LE such accusations and insinuations will result in TOs for the poster. Tara admitted that she used drugs and had met CM. That is the testimony. That can be discussed, but taking it further and insinuating that Tara is in anyway responsible, will not be allowed.

    Thanks,

    Salem

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    Where is everybody? <modsnip>, lol? Or is everyone else trying to catch up, like me?
    Last edited by Salem; 05-04-2012 at 02:15 PM. Reason: Cute - but not allowed :)


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    Been posting on the previous thread all morning, I didn't see it moved over this morning, it kept saying no current thread??? No wonder everyone wasn't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittymama View Post
    Where is everybody? <modsnip>, lol? Or is everyone else trying to catch up, like me?
    Are you bored? If so, have you seen this:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/offbeat/story...-portland.html


    Just had to post it cuz it was wee bit funny.
    Last edited by Salem; 05-04-2012 at 02:15 PM.
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    I have been thinking about the remote farm lane and found myself wondering about some things.

    IF MR knew about this farm lane from his work in the area, it is quite probable that he knew about many others in the area.

    Why would he pick a lane that was right across from a house? Anyone from that house could have seen him to in and called the farmer.

    People living in the country know who owns the land around them, and will tell each other if they spot someone entering someone else's land.

    Often, the land owners are concerned with illegal dumping and don't want their property to become home for cast away junk or construction material.

    The lane is also quite narrow and only one lane for the majority of it.

    If the farmer had pulled down that lane in his truck..........MR had nowhere to go.

    No farmer is simply going to go in and listen to a BS answer and drive away.

    They would take a look around and then follow the people out, while noting their licence plate number.

    In my opinion, MR took a big chance going down that lane, if his intention was to be there awhile.

    JMO..............

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    Questions for those who believe Tori was targeted by TLM...

    If TLM "knew" Tori, wouldn't TLM also know that she always walked home with her brother? How was she planning to separate them to get Tori alone?

    And again if TLM knew Tori, why would she lie about it and why would Tara testify to the same? I think if TLM could admit to "savagely beating to death" a little girl, why would she lie about it being a random child that happened to be standing alone (probably waiting or looking for DS)? And for what reason would TLM even want to lie about it?

    I just can't wrap my head around Tori being targeted! Thanks for any insight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty View Post
    Are you bored? If so, have you seen this:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/offbeat/story...-portland.html


    Just had to post it cuz it was wee bit funny.
    No, I'm too busy trying to catch up to be bored!

    I saw that on the news last night. It's funny, but kind of freaky--I can't believe the parents were just calmly filming it. If that was my baby, I'd be grabbing him and moving him away from the hungry lion, just from instinct, even though I'd know the lion couldn't get him. I also feel sort of bad for the lion--he thought he was going to get a nice zebra treat. Somebody feed that poor thing, lol!

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