Anyone that contiinued the fighting after my warning post, has about 3-4 minutes to self edit.
Last edited by UnfoldingTruth; 05-05-2012 at 03:17 AM. Reason: typo
I know I will get criticised for this, but I think the Trust fund is in very poor taste. I have also thought that BC were living a lie. Life was obviously not perfect like they were making out, and the drive to perfection was was ruining them both. Many people live those sorts of lives and the leafy western suburbs of Brisbane is a great spot to do it.
I keep thinking of the duck treading underwater furiously but smiling and clam above water.
If you are considering an expensive private school education for your children you usually have expressed the desire and started planning for it well before they are turning 9 or 10. As someone posted earlier, about the second thing people ask you, is where you intend to send your children to school. So if this was a desire of Allison's I surprised nothing had been done before hand.
It has also occurred to me that GBC is the type of man who would have considered siring a son very important - I wonder if the mistress was prepared to give this another try and could have caused a lot of anger and frustration.
Obviously it hasn't taken too much to expose what is beneath the surface in this families lives, as it probably would not in our own lives. It takes two to tango as the saying goes.
I feel saddened that ABC and many others do not have the self esteem to be able to share there pain with someone close.
We need to remember we are not perfect and few of us have lives without some worries. It is time we got back to reality and stopped trying to be what we are not.
If anyone is interested, I think GBC had a hand in Allison's murder, but I don't think he did it.
Last edited by spratsmum; 05-05-2012 at 03:19 AM. Reason: grammar
I am not concerned either as to where the money goes from the Trust fund, I think setting it up is in poor taste. At the funeral I could understand that may be the place, to say deposit to the Trust fund for Allison's daughter in memory of Allison, but I think a public appeal is tasteless.
It is also linked in the first post of the thread.
Hope that helps,
Hi all, my first post here; male living in Brisbane. A fascinating case for sure, and I can quite explain to myself why it has captured my attention, other than I'm probably in the same general demographic as ABC, and also married into a Rhodesian family.
I have read most of the posts so far, from day one, all 50 on the previous thread and trying to keep up with the current one which is quickly growing.
I can't add much to what has already been discussed other than my personnel perspective of ex-Rhodesians. As I said, I married into an ex-Rhodesian family and at times it has been very perplexing for me as I come from an Australian Irish-Scottish background that goes way back to the 1800s. But I can say, from my perspective, that the BC family's behaviour doesn't strike me as strange at all. Ex-Rhodesians do have something of a born to rule attitude to the world, you need to know the history of the country to understand, and at the same time they do have something of a bunker mentality. In times of crisis they close in on themselves, and feel that everybody is against them. Again this is because of their history during the civil war in Zimbabwe, and the fact that the rest of the world was against them, and nobody would listen when they were saying, "But you don't realise how bad Mugabe is."
I have at times found the relative's in my wife's family very hard work; arrogant they most certainly are, both the men and the women, and intensely loyal to the family. We all are, I know, but so intensely loyal that they won't ever deny any possible wrong-doing by a family member. I think because of their history, they see bunkering down as their best or only option.
And as to the now notorious granny pash, I remember something my mother-in-law told me shortly before she died, when she was in her late 60s. "I think in Australia, they expect old people to be old. But what you don't understand is that A (her husband) and I still feel like we are 18." And they were so passionately in love still in their 60s. It was something to be envied.
For better or worse, it's a different culture. But I can say that when you marry into an ex-Rhodesian family, you will mostly always be something of an outsider. And there are family conflicts that get blown out of all proportion that would have been accepted as nothing more than the usual spat in an Australian family with an Irish/English/Scottish background. So I can totally understand that ABC's mum and dad would not be warm with the BC family.
That said, I'm not convinced the BC's are bad people, but just displaying a different culture response.
As to whether GBC is guilty or not, I simply can't see at this point that there is enough evidence to reach a conclusion. I suspect, as some posters have already suggested, that this is much more complicated than a DV manslaughter killing. My gut feeling tells me that there was a third party involved somewhere, but it is nothing more than a gut feeling, and from what I have seen I don't think GBC would be very good at getting rid of a body in those circumstances by himself. Arrogant on the outside maybe, but pretty vulnerable on the inside, and probably being constantly pushed by his dad to be successful.
I feel a bit sick .. I just realised who Peter Davis S C - GBC's lawyer is
Davis has had some high profile cases.. including
1. Eddy Groves o ABC learning centres,
2.Geoff Sleba- involed in the 'accidentall' shooting of his wife in back while hunting snakes- initally police thought was a murder , but no charges after inquest in to death 0 mainly because he was mentally unstable after the incident ?- there were money problems , she compained about his behvaiour to her , and there were some suspcion of another women , they had seperated previously..
it might of course have been accidental ? but my point is this SC has 'form'
oh dear , oh dear - so why do you think GBC decided on this SC ..on the day his wifes body was found.. what made hm think yep this is guy for me !!
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