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    Quote Originally Posted by saguaro View Post
    Open for business?
    Yes, post away.


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    Just catching up this morning and I noticed that people were wondering where the information came from that Trayvon was an A and B student. It came from his English teacher who "described Trayvon, a junior, as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

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    [Quote from last thread] I just find this method of thinking hilarious. I can only imagine how the conversation would be (on here and elsewhere) if he had talked to and hired a lawyer on day one, when he got arrested. The same people saying he should of got a lawyer that night would be criticizing that decision if it actually happened, saying it makes him look guilty, what does he need a lawyer for, etc, etc, etc.


    I think an attorney would have been in order since he admitted to LE he shot TM and it would have been advisable. I know most people would have gone for the attorney once you are cuffed an attorney is in order. What surprises me is the father did not recommend one be there but instead it appears RZ, SR. thought he could "handle the matter himself." That does not seem odd to anyone????? jmo



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    my reply to JustK's post from previous thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Just K View Post
    GZ probably had a lawyer for his other felony charges from 2005. A lot of people, at age 28, have had to hire a lawyer for one thing or another. And, I bet a lot of people have the lawyer's number in their phone. In today's environment, IMO, everyone should keep the name and number of a good lawyer in their cellphone.
    There is an interview with one of his former attys from 2005 out there somewhere. She was on one of the TH shows, HLN IIRC. She said GZ was very involved in his defense case. Does anyone remember this interview? Or did I dream it?:P

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    From previous thread:

    Originally posted by cityslick:
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    I talk to my 30 and 32 yo daughters daily. And usually my son...but I still think that most grown up, responsible adults would first call their SO and/or a lawyer. Sure they would talk to their parents about it, but after they had already started taking care of it themselves.
    Well his father was a magistrate, perhaps he called him because he would be knowledgeable on how to handle the situation.
    But then again, wouldn't he already know how to handle the situation?

    After all, this was not George's first time at the rodeo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    my reply to JustK's post from previous thread


    There is an interview with one of his former attys from 2005 out there somewhere. She was on one of the TH shows, HLN IIRC. She said GZ was very involved in his defense case. Does anyone remember this interview? Or did I dream it?:P

    JMO, MOO, etc.

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    I remember it! It was an HLN show, either Vinnie Politan or Jane Velez-Mitchell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnM View Post
    Just catching up this morning and I noticed that people were wondering where the information came from that Trayvon was an A and B student. It came from his English teacher who "described Trayvon, a junior, as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-teacher-uncle
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    I believe it was his first time shooting someone and claiming self defense.
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    I just find this method of thinking hilarious. I can only imagine how the conversation would be (on here and elsewhere) if he had talked to and hired a lawyer on day one, when he got arrested. The same people saying he should of got a lawyer that night would be criticizing that decision if it actually happened, saying it makes him look guilty, what does he need a lawyer for, etc, etc, etc.

    I recognize the conversations that we've had here lots of times.

    However, I don't think it would have been very prominent in this case because there is an important difference imo. Many of the other cases with this discussion going on have been missing persons and murders in which the lawyered up person insists that he knows nothing and is completely innocent and wants the crime solved and the perp arrested as soon as possible. If you then lawyer up and refuse to answer questions that might help the police in their investigations it looks odd.

    However, George Zimmerman shot someone. He admits that. That in itself means he needs a lawyer. I do not believe that too many people would go through this argument with people who already admitted that they did something. It's usually the ones who deny deny deny. GZ has a good case of needing a lawyer to help him navigate the legal system and establish his defense strategy.

    I think most people are intelligent enough to recognize this is necessary to prevent miscarriages of justice in self defense cases and just to ensure everything goes fairly and there won't be costly problems with appeals even if the defendant admits that he's guilty as sin.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnM View Post
    I remember it! It was an HLN show, either Vinnie Politan or Jane Velez-Mitchell.
    Thanks! I knew I saw it. I've googled it and cannot find it. Nor do I have much time to search today. I'll search more when things aren't so hectic around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post

    There is an interview with one of his former attys from 2005 out there somewhere. She was on one of the TH shows, HLN IIRC. She said GZ was very involved in his defense case. Does anyone remember this interview? Or did I dream it?:P

    JMO, MOO, etc.

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    http://fox8.com/2012/04/11/george-zi...d-with-murder/


    Zahra Umansky, an attorney who represented Zimmerman on 2005 charges of assaulting an officer and resisting arrest after an incident in a local bar charges which were later dismissed recalled he was actively involved in his defense, more so than other youths at that age might be. He was very concerned, she said.

    She characterized Zimmerman as having a tendency to not accept what hes told at face value. He wants to take things and find out whats going on. Hes curious, she said.
    my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....



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    Do lawyers usually remember their clients from six or seven years ago or does it mean t
    that GZ stood out?

    IANAL but I remember hardly any of my clients from several years ago unless there was something extraordinary about them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    my reply to JustK's post from previous thread



    There is an interview with one of his former attys from 2005 out there somewhere. She was on one of the TH shows, HLN IIRC. She said GZ was very involved in his defense case. Does anyone remember this interview? Or did I dream it?:P

    JMO, MOO, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnM View Post
    I remember it! It was an HLN show, either Vinnie Politan or Jane Velez-Mitchell.



    Zahra Umansky, an attorney who represented Zimmerman on 2005 charges of assaulting an officer and resisting arrest after an incident in a local bar charges which were later dismissed recalled he was actively involved in his defense, more so than other youths at that age might be. He was very concerned, she said.

    She characterized Zimmerman as having a tendency to not accept what hes told at face value. He wants to take things and find out whats going on. Hes curious, she said.

    http://fox6now.com/2012/04/12/george...-ask-for-bail/


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