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    Quote Originally Posted by willough View Post
    This is definitely one of those things that is very open to conjecture. Generally, why would your children be needing to stay over at one of your own friends for the night? Now, if the children were staying at their own friends for 'fun', then there need not be a reason. But kids dont just stay at an adults friend, unles there is a reason.

    a) GBC was going to the conference with her (and they would both be knackered and got friend to look after kids)

    But, if GBC wasn't going to this conference with her, why was he unable to look after the children? I know he is a busy person, but really, RE agents, especially principals can arrange to leave at 3pm to pick up the kids/or 5pm to collect from after school care facility.

    Or, maybe they were seperated.....and it was Allison's weekend to look after the children and he did live at the parents home, which is why his laptop was there.

    Again.......who knows
    Unless 'they' as a couple had something on thats night


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    Quote Originally Posted by AllyG View Post
    Of course the colour of the car matters. Everyone knows red cars go faster
    lol!..in relation to the testing someone said they thought it didn't matter- that the police just used any old car thay happened to be white..Me thinks they chose the colour specifically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseClosed View Post
    A laptop was taken by police from their house when it was declared a crime scene. Later on they took a PC (and maybe some other laptops?) from the parents house. I don't think they took any computer equipment from the office.
    It is so confusing. I dont think the police have specified what was taken from Allison Baden Clay's home, so I dont know whether a computer was taken. We know a laptop and shredded paper and a few other items were taken from Nigel and Elaine Baden Clay's home, as it was stipulated through the media.


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    My latest theory is :

    allison comes home on the Thursday - an argument ensues - perhaps about money, relationships, behaviour at the school cross country anything. The argument turns violent and Allison runs from the house and jumps in her car and she drives off, followed by her husband. In the ensuing hours he convinces her via mobile phone to talk with him - the meeting place is near the roundabout at Moggill and Kenmore Rds. More like;y he would get into her car, the argument continues and struggle, fight takes Allison life. We now two cars and one driver. GBC calls someone (Dad or girlfriend, an unnone third person) and they meet him near the roundabout. The third person and GBC drive one of the family cars home (the one Gerard was using) perhaps they drove the wrong way round the roundabout (it is late at night, no one is around, they are panicing) hence why the police are testing driving times. GBC and mystery person drive back to ABC, in GBC car, in her car near the roundabout. They then park mystery persons car and move Allison body, as she probably was in the drivers seat, into the boot and travel and dump her body. This would all take some time, I think you would become more sensible and restrained as the time wore on and start think of covering up what has happened. Very early on the Friday morning they return to the other car and once again return to BC home at Brookfield. They sit and talk for some time to get the story straight and the 3rd person leaves. 7.30 has been decided as the time to call police, so GBC waits until this time and calls the missing person report, thinking that this will buy them a number of days before any suspicion is aroused.

    The mobile phone was used to talk or message between the Baden Clays, it needed to be got rid of so he threw it away in bush near his home, not incriminating the roundabout area and lead people to believe that something a happened to Allison around the local area, perhaps attacked on her morning walk, when the mobile phone became such a vital clue the phone was retrieved and got rid of knows where.

    I think when the police took such a great interest in the case very early the whole plan started to unravel, and the BC are trying desperately to stay one step ahead. The kiss and the road accident were ways to divert attention and to engender sympathy and to paint themselves as a very loving couple.

    When I rewatched the video of GBC and his sister this morning, I was struck as to how modest, by Kenmore standards, the parents home is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnfoldingTruth View Post
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    Anyway, I was interested in the police testing the car around the round about on Friday night and the direction it went in. SOmeone said the colour of the car wasn't important..I think it perhaps was. I imagine when police tested this it may have been between the times they had set out that they were looking for information about. And I think they would try to recreate something as close as possible to what they know. If there were vehicles that regularly travel at that time in that area, perhaps it would have jogged a memory?? ( just my thoughts)
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    sometimes, with video footage, a car can appear to be light coloured, white cream, silver. or dark coloured, navy black dark green. To test the theory that it was in fact white, they might reenact this. I am guessing you can only see the car with the cctv not the occupants clearly. perhaps you can see clothing to an extent, and some clothing may have been taken as evidence form parents house and similar worn when the test was conducted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post
    Example of normal speaking voice in this vid http://video.adelaidenow.com.au/2228...ay-real-estate

    Sound recording is terrible but you can see a clear difference.

    As others have said, the recent video is the "calling in a sickie" voice.

    What I find most bizarre there is that the "i've been crying" voice isn't accompanied by any tears or the usual nasal congestion that would go with it, which is why it sounds so unnatural.
    The Gerard Baden-Clay Interview, (His wife Allison Beden-Clay still missing) UPDATE BODY FOUND - YouTube
    Then he just walks away awkwardly...leaving his poor Sister to clean up after him...I think she knew he looked a bit didgy to the reported which is why she was biting her lip and looking up to the right.....she seemed more sincere then he did...Although I think she suspects/ knows something!


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnfoldingTruth View Post
    Unless 'they' as a couple had something on thats night
    Very true, another possibility.

    That is the only time I get others to look after my children. I dont when im at a conference. I may be knackered after a full day conference, but im still capable of buying a pizza on the way home, letting the kids run amock, while I try to recover (sometimes with a glass of merlot in hand) and smile, when the children are finally in bed.......lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by willough View Post
    This is definitely one of those things that is very open to conjecture. Generally, why would your children be needing to stay over at one of your own friends for the night? Now, if the children were staying at their own friends for 'fun', then there need not be a reason. But kids dont just stay at an adults friend, unles there is a reason.

    a) GBC was going to the conference with her (and they would both be knackered and got friend to look after kids)

    But, if GBC wasn't going to this conference with her, why was he unable to look after the children? I know he is a busy person, but really, RE agents, especially principals can arrange to leave at 3pm to pick up the kids/or 5pm to collect from after school care facility.

    Or, maybe they were seperated.....and it was Allison's weekend to look after the children and he did live at the parents home, which is why his laptop was there.

    Again.......who knows
    It is possible that someone was going to drop the kids at school as ABC and GBC were both due to leave the house too early to drop the girls off at 8.30am - 9am for whatever reason. I have a friend who lives close by. If she has an early morning meeting sometimes I will have her boy stay here so I can take him to school for her. I wouldn't say it's impossible that they would have done this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcat View Post
    Is it a possibilty that someone seen GBC driving the car at one point and then on the return someone else was driving it??
    if he did drive to fathers, I would think father would take over from that point, absolutely


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    Quote Originally Posted by spratsmum View Post
    My latest theory is :

    allison comes home on the Thursday - an argument ensues - perhaps about money, relationships, behaviour at the school cross country anything. The argument turns violent and Allison runs from the house and jumps in her car and she drives off, followed by her husband. In the ensuing hours he convinces her via mobile phone to talk with him - the meeting place is near the roundabout at Moggill and Kenmore Rds. More like;y he would get into her car, the argument continues and struggle, fight takes Allison life. We now two cars and one driver. GBC calls someone (Dad or girlfriend, an unnone third person) and they meet him near the roundabout. The third person and GBC drive one of the family cars home (the one Gerard was using) perhaps they drove the wrong way round the roundabout (it is late at night, no one is around, they are panicing) hence why the police are testing driving times. GBC and mystery person drive back to ABC, in GBC car, in her car near the roundabout. They then park mystery persons car and move Allison body, as she probably was in the drivers seat, into the boot and travel and dump her body. This would all take some time, I think you would become more sensible and restrained as the time wore on and start think of covering up what has happened. Very early on the Friday morning they return to the other car and once again return to BC home at Brookfield. They sit and talk for some time to get the story straight and the 3rd person leaves. 7.30 has been decided as the time to call police, so GBC waits until this time and calls the missing person report, thinking that this will buy them a number of days before any suspicion is aroused.

    The mobile phone was used to talk or message between the Baden Clays, it needed to be got rid of so he threw it away in bush near his home, not incriminating the roundabout area and lead people to believe that something a happened to Allison around the local area, perhaps attacked on her morning walk, when the mobile phone became such a vital clue the phone was retrieved and got rid of knows where.

    I think when the police took such a great interest in the case very early the whole plan started to unravel, and the BC are trying desperately to stay one step ahead. The kiss and the road accident were ways to divert attention and to engender sympathy and to paint themselves as a very loving couple.

    When I rewatched the video of GBC and his sister this morning, I was struck as to how modest, by Kenmore standards, the parents home is.
    one thing that doesnt add up for me...if I was Allison that night and this was how it unfolded...i would have called either my girlfriend, or my parents. they have never said they heard anything from her, so she didnt contact them. I know people have said in the past she was very proud and wouldnt want to talk about problems etc, but at 11pm onwards at night, sitting around in your car in the dark, you would surely try and contact best friend or mum? I would


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    also, her phone may be missing, butr if he had been trying to coerce her to talk or meet, his phone would have evidence of this


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    I agree, a year ago I had a barney with hubby and got in the car and left....I called my sister (who is like my bestie....my bestie is a few hours away). Asked if I could come for coffee.....and she wa "Hell yeah" because she knew it wasnt like me to be calling at night. I personally think that Brookfield seems like a very gossipy place, where people are often entirely putting on fronts......Her friends say she was vivacious etc................and I am sure she was. But I think she was living a private hell (which really upsets me....tears) where she felt lonely....................not proud.........alone. Doesnt mean she was, but she may have felt that way.

    Purely specualtion....One cannot know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by willough View Post
    This is definitely one of those things that is very open to conjecture. Generally, why would your children be needing to stay over at one of your own friends for the night? Now, if the children were staying at their own friends for 'fun', then there need not be a reason. But kids dont just stay at an adults friend, unles there is a reason.

    a) GBC was going to the conference with her (and they would both be knackered and got friend to look after kids)

    But, if GBC wasn't going to this conference with her, why was he unable to look after the children? I know he is a busy person, but really, RE agents, especially principals can arrange to leave at 3pm to pick up the kids/or 5pm to collect from after school care facility.

    Or, maybe they were seperated.....and it was Allison's weekend to look after the children and he did live at the parents home, which is why his laptop was there.

    Again.......who knows
    which also explains the indifference between ABC parents toward him....no need to have much to do with them....of course they were seperated....thats also why they didnt really wanna put any GOOD info on the c21 pages of Allison....IMHO


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    Quote Originally Posted by minni View Post
    one thing that doesnt add up for me...if I was Allison that night and this was how it unfolded...i would have called either my girlfriend, or my parents. they have never said they heard anything from her, so she didnt contact them. I know people have said in the past she was very proud and wouldnt want to talk about problems etc, but at 11pm onwards at night, sitting around in your car in the dark, you would surely try and contact best friend or mum? I would
    My mum never did. Many people would have said the same about our family. That they knew mum wasn't happy. But she was too proud to admit what was going on and didn't ask for help. She didn't leave until my youngest sibling turned 18. Then she felt she could go because we were all old enough then.

    So she put up with years of emotional and physical abuse. Nobody ever called the police.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Acer View Post
    This has the same feeling of the Anna Kemp and Gracie Sharpe murders in Melbourne.

    GBC is acting in a very similar manner when interviewed.
    John Sharpe acted very odd - holding head down crying with no tears saying over and over he didnt have anything to do with it - blatantly lying that he had spoken to hiswife - when all the time his pregnat wife and baby daughter were dead from numerous spear shots to head ]

    No i wouldnt put GBC in same catergory - i aint no FBI microexpressions expert , the shaking of head when asking about assiting police is odd but ..


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