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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I'm not sure what we would learn if we did hear the 911 calls...LE has heard them, and they can't seem to solve the case...JMO
    For my own perspective, I think it would put to rest some of the mystery surrounding the case.

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    Well, for one, we might be able to get a good idea of the sense(s) of urgency transmitted by the caller(s) in relation to the disappearance IF WE COULD BUT HEAR THE D+MN 911 RECORDINGS!!

    And if we ever get far enough along in the process of maybe, JUST MAYBE, having the 911 calls released and T.B.I. says well, we'd like to, but there are names named on the tape(s) so we are afraid we'll have to hold on to them, JUST TELL THEM TO BEEP OUT THE D+MN NAME(S) AND PROCEED FROM THERE!!

    No, no, I'm not frustrated, no, no, not me. Thanks.


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    If I ever get invaded, abducted, kidnapped, assaulted, murdered, hi-jacked, car-jacked, robbed, or stranded.....I pray to the good Lord I'm not in Tennessee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    If I ever get invaded, abducted, kidnapped, assaulted, murdered, hi-jacked, car-jacked, robbed, or stranded.....I pray to the good Lord I'm not in Tennessee.
    Poor Holly. I feel so bad that this case has gone so cold. It is almost like Holly never existed and everyone has moved on...except for us of course.


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    After reading just this short thread (I have read since the beginning, but not stuck to it), I'm starting to see this case in a new light.

    First, we have Holly going into the woods with SOMEONE, as witnessed by her brother.

    Secondly, we have a near-hysterical mother who tells her son to "get the gun," or some such close words.

    Then we have a friend who bursts out crying because Holly does not show up for "THE" most important test.

    After that we hear the brother saying (paraphrase) "we might not be seeing Holly for a long while," or some such.

    Then we have her mom saying collected money will be used for a "vacation" for Holly when this is over - another paraphrase.

    After that there is a drug bust (shades of Haleigh Cummings), and an investigation.

    Now, MY theory, and MINE only, and this is just what I'm surmising - suppose Holly was a "plant" in a drug ring/operation? Suppose, bear with my idea for a minute, that mom knew about it, and that's why she was hysterical? Now, maybe brother didn't know all the details and was not so concerned, maybe he thought it was all part and parcel of her participation?

    I know this may sound far-fetched, but. . . let us not forget the pastor (involved with the Bobos???) who killed the father of the bride.

    There are several more "interesting" happenings, but that's enough for now.

    I do believe there's a LOT more going on here than anyone can fathom due, in part, to the shifting stories, and the information blackout - a LOT more.

    My opinion only


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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    If I ever get invaded, abducted, kidnapped, assaulted, murdered, hi-jacked, car-jacked, robbed, or stranded.....I pray to the good Lord I'm not in Tennessee.
    Or Florida...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
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    After reading just this short thread (I have read since the beginning, but not stuck to it), I'm starting to see this case in a new light.

    Now, MY theory, and MINE only, and this is just what I'm surmising - suppose Holly was a "plant" in a drug ring/operation? Suppose, bear with my idea for a minute, that mom knew about it, and that's why she was hysterical? Now, maybe brother didn't know all the details and was not so concerned, maybe he thought it was all part and parcel of her participation?

    I know this may sound far-fetched, but. . . let us not forget the pastor (involved with the Bobos???) who killed the father of the bride.
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    Forgive my ignorance, but what is a plant in a drug ring/operation?
    "oldsteve" - no relation to anyone outside this forum, and what I write is meant only for Websleuths.



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    I took that as like an undercover buyer working with the cops to bust a drug ring (a theory that I do not buy) Most of those people are druggies that got busted and cut a deal to go after the higher ups in the business to get a reduced sentence themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla Lashelle View Post
    Or Florida...
    Or Oklahoma. But I'd take Oklahoma over Florida and especially over Tennessee.


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    I think this video pretty much rules out Karen hiding any knowledge of what happened to Holly. It seems obvious to me that she's a woman who has been very worn down by the months of not knowing.

    http://www.abc24.com/news/local/stor...hsdgTKhwQ.cspx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Fries View Post
    I think this video pretty much rules out Karen hiding any knowledge of what happened to Holly. It seems obvious to me that she's a woman who has been very worn down by the months of not knowing.

    http://www.abc24.com/news/local/stor...hsdgTKhwQ.cspx
    Thanks for reposting this Chili Fries. I think the Bobo's are suffering from the unbelievable pain that can only come from from having your worst nightmare come true.

    Having your precious child abducted, essentially right in front of your eyes and the eyes of such a small, tight-knit community, I imagine is something no one can understand- even those who have experienced it.
    Just as everyone loves differently, everyone suffers differently.

    My heart breaks for the Bobo family.


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    I never believed the family knew much more than they have disclosed unless it was some details that LE had told them not to discuss. You wouldn't quit your job, drop out of school, and devote your time to searching for your daughter/sister for a whole year just as some sort of cover up.
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    Thanks for the link. It is a very sad situation, as we all just want Holly found.

    I am so confused by it all though because of the totality of all the other confusing interviews combined together. A very recent example of why this case is so bizarre as compared to others is the recent case with the Mayes person on the run. The poor mother that was missing + killed (Joanne Bain) had some facebook postings that were publisized of her last postings involving something like...."a good venting always makes you feel better" or something like that as one of her last facebook posts. This was released I suppose to offer any possible clues when they were originally looking for her before they found her. So, with Holly's case, why is her last facebook posts not released as to maybe help offer clues to what happened. Everything in this case has been kept so secretive, as if somebody has a reason to hide things or something. It just doesn't make any sense to me to hide any of the facts of this case, when trying to offer clues to what has happened.

    The JVM interview stands out to me as if they were trying to hide information about what had happened. If you watch that interview, it was like Jane had to pull teeth to get even the simplest of questions answered, and when the son finally started talking about some things, the Mom had a really strange reaction, as if she was trying to get him to stop talking and stop saying anything, IMO.

    I realize we all would behave differently, and you can't conclude anything from watching reactions, but most of the interviews I have seen, the overall impression I get IMO is to limit what is said and hide some information. That is just the impression I get when I summarize all the different interviews together as a whole. And that doesn't make any sense to me when it seems you would want to share all you know to help find someone.

    At least as the months went on, more information was finally released, so we did finally end up hearing many more details of info that may help find her, but as we all know, a lot of it conflicted with past information provided, so it became very confusing. Unfortunately because of the length of time it took to provide info, and all the conflicting information, I am afraid they have lost a lot of public support.

    If things would have been handled better from the very beginning by everyone, I think it may have helped.

    All JMO, of course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I'm not sure what we would learn if we did hear the 911 calls...LE has heard them, and they can't seem to solve the case...JMO
    IMO, I think the critical thing we could learn is the actual timeline of who called who and when, so that we can determine the exact time Holly got taken. It would also help to confirm if all the different people were totally honest in their stories of what happened. Especially, when comparing the actual phone call logs against some of the statements and calls mentioned in the main Jackson article where a lot of specific phone calls + times were mentioned.

    I hate to be skeptical of LE, but I really don't think LE gathered all the necessary phone call logs they needed to get. The reason I think this is because of the sheer number of people and phones that would need to be gathered to get a good analysis done.

    Below is a list of all the phone logs that I feel LE should acquire to help solve this case. If all these records were gathered by LE, I honestly think they could either confirm everything is as stated (OR) just maybe find the culprit!!!

    Because if something stands out as grossly inaccurate, it would raise a huge red flag.

    These are all the Phone Records that are Important IMO
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    -Holly Cell
    -Holly House phone
    -Mom Cell
    -Dad Cell
    -Clint Cell
    -Grams Cell
    -Grams House
    -School phone (all the ones used, if multiple)
    -D Cell
    -D House
    -D dad
    -Friend at school that called her Cell
    -Friend at school's house phone
    -Neighbor son cell
    -Neighbor Mother Cell
    -Neighbor house
    -Other friend that was mentioned that may have called
    -Friend that talked with Clint night before in the chat
    -Anybody that was called from Moms cell, Dads cell, Clints Cell that morning prior to the 911 calls, get their phone logs too, and see who they called, as they may have used that info to know she was alone at the house.

    I am sure there are others that may also be important to look at, but as you can see, I am very skeptical that LE was able to obtain all these phone records and do a thorough analysis. I do really believe that it is possible that if these records were obtained and analyzed, it may possibly provide a clue as to what happened that morning.

    I am really afraid that LE only looked at very few phone logs.

    All JMO of course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    After reading just this short thread (I have read since the beginning, but not stuck to it), I'm starting to see this case in a new light.

    First, we have Holly going into the woods with SOMEONE, as witnessed by her brother.

    Secondly, we have a near-hysterical mother who tells her son to "get the gun," or some such close words.

    Then we have a friend who bursts out crying because Holly does not show up for "THE" most important test.

    After that we hear the brother saying (paraphrase) "we might not be seeing Holly for a long while," or some such.

    Then we have her mom saying collected money will be used for a "vacation" for Holly when this is over - another paraphrase.

    After that there is a drug bust (shades of Haleigh Cummings), and an investigation.

    Now, MY theory, and MINE only, and this is just what I'm surmising - suppose Holly was a "plant" in a drug ring/operation? Suppose, bear with my idea for a minute, that mom knew about it, and that's why she was hysterical? Now, maybe brother didn't know all the details and was not so concerned, maybe he thought it was all part and parcel of her participation?

    I know this may sound far-fetched, but. . . let us not forget the pastor (involved with the Bobos???) who killed the father of the bride.

    There are several more "interesting" happenings, but that's enough for now.

    I do believe there's a LOT more going on here than anyone can fathom due, in part, to the shifting stories, and the information blackout - a LOT more.

    My opinion only

    IMO, its possible and as good a theory as anything. It would explain some of the reactions if something like this was the case. Let's remember the Sheriff's reaction too during the first interview. He was crying, and that reaction could have been also if he felt some sort of responsiblity if somehow he had asked Holly to help in some type of undercover operation.

    Afterall, they apparantly were friends or at least close with the Sheriff, so its possible that maybe Holly was doing some sort of favor for LE (OR) maybe even to help someone she cared about that may have gotten in some trouble, so maybe she volunteered to help. Anything is possible IMO.

    That is what is so difficult with this case, is there are so many possibilities as to what happened.

    This particular theory is possible IMO because of the timing of that rogue LE officer that got arrested for releasing the names of informants on some sort of LIST. That made big news, and that happened shortly before Holly disappeared, so I have always wondered if somehow that was connected in some way.

    I realize a lot of our WS people have hashed + re-hashed some of these same discusssions over and over, so I apoligize for bringing up some of the same old discussions. I keep waiting for some breaking news that they have found her. I keep praying that will happen some day.


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