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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlechiquita View Post
    I hear you, and have heard the same stories. In all honesty, whether he is gay or bi or whatever is irrelevant for me. If he did assault these men in any way, now that's effed up. Being a masseuse, escort, or prostitute does not give "johns" (lol) a free pass to rape and batter.
    It is never about being gay, or bi. Who cares? It is always about sexual assault. I find if the person is a celebrity, we tend to think he is innocent. True, he is innocent till proven guilty. Yet, we all can have our opinions drawing from what we have read as those that feel the need to believe JT. And, I personally don't care if they were johns, etc, he has no right, (if he did abuse these men) to do so.

    If I had a lawsuit against him, I may have to think if I wanted my name out in the public too. That never seems to help the victim when it involves a celeb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    Are JT's accusers gay or straight? If they're gay, then why not do whatever he wanted? Come on - they're out for his money, probably because he didn't accept their offers. If they're straight, why would JT, if gay, expect anything from them? Not buying it.

    I just read the TMZ article - never again. Why is the massuse being picked up and being driven to JT's bungalow in a car that has condoms in the console? Give me a break. Why wouldn't he just leave the room and what was his penis doing out to begin with? Oy vey.
    So if one is gay, they would do what he wanted??
    That makes no sense..

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    Carrie Fisher outed him a while back in an interview and if you google "john Travolta gay" there are numerous stories about his escapades and not all of them are nice. In Australia just about everyone I know acknowledges that he is one of the actors who is living a double life and it seems it has been known in Hollywood for years.

    I think that in these cases he has taken his "celebrity" status a bit too far and assumed these guys would definitely be up for it. I find that arrogant of him but also think these two are making money of it.

    Saying all this, I think it is a shame that he has to lie. I, for one dont care that he is gay and love alot of his movies and grew up with Welcome Back Cotter.
    To me if anything comes of it I think its about time that Hollywood needs to know that in this day and age the majority of us dont care about sexual orientation anymore and therefore stop suggesting and/or making that these people have to have sham marriages etc.

    Oh and also dare I bring up the scientology avenue here............they think homosexuals can be cured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlechiquita View Post
    I hear you, and have heard the same stories. In all honesty, whether he is gay or bi or whatever is irrelevant for me. If he did assault these men in any way, now that's effed up. Being a masseuse, escort, or prostitute does not give "johns" (lol) a free pass to rape and batter.
    Uhhh...if these men were sexually battered wouldn't it make sense to call the POLICE in a timely manner instead of calling an attorney later?

    Oh wait...maybe these poor innocent masseurs were too traumatized and frightened to contact the authorities so they waited a while and called an attorney.


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    There is no case. He wasn't even there at the time they claimed the assault took place.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/10/john-t...new-york-city/


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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlockh View Post
    There is no case. He wasn't even there at the time they claimed the assault took place.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/10/john-t...new-york-city/
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    I wish I hadnt read from the bottom up...$2 million?
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    Here's the thing. If you are assaulted, you call the police, you pursue criminal prosecution. What you don't do is file a civil suit under anonymous conditions (IMO).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlockh View Post
    There is no case. He wasn't even there at the time they claimed the assault took place.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/10/john-t...new-york-city/

    actually, I thought I read that receipts have come out that proved he was there.


    there have been rumors for years about him, and his news stories usually get swept right under the rug for whatever reason.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacie Estes View Post
    Assault is the operative word in this story; if there were proven assaults then they have a case.

    Otherwise, I don't understand the obsession with who is putting what where. People's sexuality is their business.
    It's more than that though because it's JT's reputation at stake. If he wanted to be out then he'd be out. If he's not gay then it's a bald faced lie and damages his reputation and hurts his family. If he's a closet gay, it still hurts his family. If that's the case, it will hurt his image with the people who have always wished him well. When people are famous, they betray their fans when they betray themselves. That's what Tiger Woods did imo.

    It doesn't matter who they are if they're honest about it but if who they portray themselves to be and who they are is different then they fool us. I'm not sure who the people are who take it upon themselves to make sure the world knows the truth about someone but, if you're a fan who believes the facade image, then it's disappointing to find out otherwise.

    Lisa Rinna was on TV today and I heard her ask, 'why wouldn't the masseurs just leave the room if they felt violated?' Same thing I asked yesterday. What was the nature of the 'assault'? And now they need to sue JT because they're so damaged that he allegedly made a pass at them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozgals View Post
    So if one is gay, they would do what he wanted??
    That makes no sense..

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    After I read my post again, I realized that was a sloppy remark. No they should not do what anybody else wants simply because they are gay. I was hoping peeps would read my mind - ha! - and understand what I meant considering the scenario. Which is, at least one 'victim' says he was picked up in a car by JT himself that had condoms visable in the console.
    This person is in the business of giving massages and gets picked up in cars by high rollers, apparently. Is this his first rodeo? Never been propositioned before and thought about a game plan if and when that should ever happen? Has he sued other clients or does he wait for the most famous one to come along before he takes action? If the masseur is gay, would it be THAT psychologically damaging for someone to suggest the route of a happy ending?

    I'm trying to get the picture of what an 'assault' entails? To me an 'assault' is when you are forced, detained and/or put in a position of bodily harm or have been forced to perform a deed (like at gunpoint) that you didn't want to do. Would someone asking for something constitute claiming an assault? Even if he got a little handsy, would that be an assault? Say 'no' and walk out. Where is the 'assault' word coming from?


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    The receipts prove Travolta was eating in a resturant in NYC at the time of the assault IIRC. His plane was logged also flying from LA to NYC, and it stayed overnight, again during the time the masseuse says he was assaulted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    oops.


    ya, I'll say. LOL.

    It's not like it's not been tried before.

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    Methinks, Travolta must have a movie coming out soon.

    *emma runs to google*

    ah, yes. He does. Savages. due July.

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savages_%282012_film%29"]Savages (2012 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Savages is an upcoming crime–thriller film directed by Oliver Stone. It is based on the novel of the same name by Don Winslow, who co-wrote the script with Stone and Shane Salerno. The film is set for release July 6, 2012, and stars Taylor Kitsch, Aaron Johnson, and Blake Lively.
    oooo...NICE cast! Benicio, Salma, Travolta & Uma too.

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    I wouldn't put it past these "defendants" to time their blackmail scheme around a blockbuster release. You know, hoping someone would just pay them to go away and be quiet.

    IMO, that's when you usually hear from the opportunists.



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    And now this from the plaintiff John Doe:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...=feeds-newsxml

    'In consideration of that, I ask the public to not judge anyone, and allow all parties to work things out in a respectful and dignified manner, and if these matters do go to court than only that final decision past appeals, etc should be considered a definitive statement on 'guilt' or 'innocence'.'
    Translation - Hey c'mon. Quit making a big deal out of this - I just wanted a little hush money and now it's not hush anymore. Darn!


    Anyway, it's just a theory.
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    [quote=Woe.be.gone;7899450]It's more than that though because it's JT's reputation at stake. If he wanted to be out then he'd be out. If he's not gay then it's a bald faced lie and damages his reputation and hurts his family.
    If he's a closet gay, it still hurts his family. If that's the case, it will hurt his image with the people who have always wished him well. When people are famous, they betray their fans when they betray themselves.
    That's what Tiger Woods did imo.


    Maybe his wife knows and doesn't care. We don't know anything about their marriage. I don't know how it would hurt his image. The world is slowly becoming more tolerant toward the gay community. His career as a romantic lead are probably over anyway. If his fans would be upset that he was gay or bisexual, he would be better off without those fans.

    It doesn't matter who they are if they're honest about it but if who they portray themselves to be and who they are is different then they fool us. I'm not sure who the people are who take it upon themselves to make sure the world knows the truth about someone but, if you're a fan who believes the facade image, then it's disappointing to find out otherwise.
    I don't understand why famous people have to tell us who they sleep with. Again, if he's bisexual and Kelly Preston knows and loves him anyway, why should we care? One of my favorite actors, Sir Ian McKellan, is openly gay and it sure hasn't hurt his career. Most of Travolta's fans are adults and should be mature and intelligent enough to not believe in fantasies about their favorite stars. I'm old enough now to understand I'll never marry Leonardo DiCaprio. Not to say, I would turn him down either.


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    Oh, this is common knowledge in Hollywood. Yes he is gay and has visited bath houses since the 80s. Why won't he just be honest with his fans? I guess he believes they will reject him and many people don't know the truth and he likes to keep a facade escpecially since his religion doesn't believe in it.

    Here's some good reads about John Travolta's preferences:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ay-rumors.html
    http://gawker.com/5685811/


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