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    Verdict: GUILTY!

    Verdict Watch Discussion Thread:

    reposting a few of the warnings:

    Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.

    Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.

    We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.

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    **verdict watch**

    We are now on verdict watch in the case against MR:

    deliberations started at: 2:42 pacific standard time local time

    **back from dinner and deliberating at 7pm est**

    **update: as of 1115 est the jury has deliberated for 3 hours and has asked to watch the 24 may video interview of TLM**
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 05-11-2012 at 11:14 AM. Reason: I'll update that as soon as I figure out what the real time was :)
    This bee my opinion


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    Remember the ZERO TOLERANCE policy. As we go into this waiting period, and once the verdict is read, emotions are apt to overflow. Please be aware of this and keep your emotions in check. Take a break, if needed or read without posting, if needed - but do what YOU need to do, so I don't have to visit the TO board. Please.

    Salem
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    RAW VIDEO: Comments from Rafferty's lawyer

    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19742271.html
    "The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."
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    I have a ton of butterflies in my tummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekaboo10 View Post
    I have a ton of butterflies in my tummy.
    Me too peekaboo, I am on pins and needles, why do the jurors have to eat ugh

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    Oh my God...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxfactor View Post
    AM980_Court Their dinner reservations are at 6. They'll then deliberate until 9.
    They probably won't sleep very well tonight, kind of sucks, the timing, they will literally just get going, and then go to bed!

    Wonder if they will do a quick vote on all 3 charges before retiring for the evening?

    P.S> Where is the sign-up list for the text alerts from WS on a verdict?! lol

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    While I am happy the time is near, I am sad at the same time. I imagine the family feels the same way. In a way this is a final good-bye to Victoria. After this is all said and done, it is all over, there is no bringing her back .
    Sympathy is prejudice disguised as pity.

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    For three months leading to the murder of Victoria 'Tori' Stafford, Michael Rafferty searched the Internet for 'underage rape, real underage rape, real underage rape pictures, pre-teen nude, pre-teen model galleries and nude pre-teen.'

    He also accessed a 'how-to-guide' on raping children and dozens of child pornography videos, including some featuring incest and one purporting to be a "snuff movie" involving a child.

    LFP - http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741946.html

    ETA I feel sick, my hands are shaking.


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    I also want to say I am glad to have met so many different wonderful people on here. Hopefully I will still see y'all around.
    Sympathy is prejudice disguised as pity.


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    Pretty sure we won't hear anything tonight. They'll probably just get the foreperson elected.

    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliotrope View Post
    For three months leading to the murder of Victoria 'Tori' Stafford, Michael Rafferty searched the Internet for 'underage rape, real underage rape, real underage rape pictures, pre-teen nude, pre-teen model galleries and nude pre-teen.'

    He also accessed a 'how-to-guide' on raping children and dozens of child pornography videos, including some featuring incest and one purporting to be a "snuff movie" involving a child.

    LFP
    OMG how is this not evidence?
    Sympathy is prejudice disguised as pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliotrope View Post
    For three months leading to the murder of Victoria 'Tori' Stafford, Michael Rafferty searched the Internet for 'underage rape, real underage rape, real underage rape pictures, pre-teen nude, pre-teen model galleries and nude pre-teen.'

    He also accessed a 'how-to-guide' on raping children and dozens of child pornography videos, including some featuring incest and one purporting to be a "snuff movie" involving a child.

    LFP

    ETA I feel sick, my hands are shaking.
    Here we go. OMG

    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    OMG how is this not evidence?
    Faulty warrant.

    Oh my God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliotrope View Post
    Faulty warrant.

    Oh my God.
    Imagine being on the jury and voting for an aquittal and then finding out this stuff?!?

    MOO


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    On March 28, 2009, 10 days before the kidnapping, Rafferty watched a movie about a man using a story about his lost dog to abduct a blonde, eight-year-old girl walking home alone after school. She is taken away in the man's car and forced later to perform sexual acts.

    On April 23, 2009, after the kidnapping, he downloaded a movie about Karla Homolka.

    But none of his disturbing Internet activity could be considered as evidence that Rafferty wanted or planned to rape eight-year-old Tori, largely because it was found under a faulty OPP search warrant.

    LFP - http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741946.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliotrope View Post
    For three months leading to the murder of Victoria 'Tori' Stafford, Michael Rafferty searched the Internet for 'underage rape, real underage rape, real underage rape pictures, pre-teen nude, pre-teen model galleries and nude pre-teen.'

    He also accessed a 'how-to-guide' on raping children and dozens of child pornography videos, including some featuring incest and one purporting to be a "snuff movie" involving a child.

    LFP

    ETA I feel sick, my hands are shaking.

    You NEED a link for this please!

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    GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!!!! After hearing the news and that he downloaded Karla movie and had kid porn. Done lock him up and throw away the key!

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    Thank-goodness no such thing as double jeopardy in Canada. MOO
    As always, JMO

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    Prayers for Jun Lin, his family and those that love him.
    Justice is patient, relentless in its pursuit and is on the march for Justin Lin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You NEED a link for this please!

    Salem


    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741946.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You NEED a link for this please!

    Salem
    Faulty warrant shielded Internet activity
    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741946.html

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    How could they screw up this bad! ARGH!!!!!!
    Sympathy is prejudice disguised as pity.

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    Do you think TS parents knew about his laptop ?

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    This totally explains to me why RS appeared to always believe that it was MR that yielded the hammer.

    I'm literally going to puke now.

    Salem
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