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    Quote Originally Posted by gardenia View Post
    OMG!!!!!!

    I cannot believe this stuff didn't make it into evidence ... let me be one of the first to say that "I" was wrong in my estimation!!!
    Me too, reminds me of the case of the murdered Pickering girl Julie Ann Stanton by Peter John Stark, the jurors had no idea he had stabbed a hitch hiker prior and several other things
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    What a disgusting vile excuse for a human being. I can't believe he has the gall to put Tori's parents through this trial, not to mention waste court resources, tax dollars and all of the time, energy and emotion being spent on this trial.

    Effing disgusting. I hope see never sees the light of day again.

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    I sure hope the jurors see in the car photos the laptop and wonder why there was nothing brought out about it. I know they cannot decide on that fact but it may sway them in their decisions slightly, kwim. I am shock at some of this info coming out now, but not surprised. And this is just the beginning. MOO
    RIP Tim. Justice will prevail

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    May 15/12, Michael Rafferty guilty; 25 years with no chance of parole. R.I.H. P.O.S.

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    CTV Newsnet has reported that, in the days following Tori's murder, MTR had watched the movie "Karla" on his laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbbeyR View Post
    What a disgusting vile excuse for a human being. I can't believe he has the gall to put Tori's parents through this trial, not to mention waste court resources, tax dollars and all of the time, energy and emotion being spent on this trial.

    Effing disgusting. I hope see never sees the light of day again.
    Too bad the laws couldn't be changed to make those found guilty of these crimes, to extend their sentence time for wasting money on a trial. MOO Tack on another 25 years for financial pay back.
    RIP Tim. Justice will prevail

    RIP sweet Tori.

    May 15/12, Michael Rafferty guilty; 25 years with no chance of parole. R.I.H. P.O.S.

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    What a disgusting piece of trash.
    ♥♥♥ In Memory of Tori ♥♥♥

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    He's a pedophile, TLM was the innocent dupe.
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    I want to extend my deepest sympathies to anyone who feel victim to MR. All those women who he played and took advantage of, I am truly and deeply sorry for the pain and devastation he had left upon your lives. God bless you.
    RIP Tim. Justice will prevail

    RIP sweet Tori.

    May 15/12, Michael Rafferty guilty; 25 years with no chance of parole. R.I.H. P.O.S.

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    "I learned that it is the weak who are cruel, and that gentleness is to be expected only from the strong."~Leo Rosten

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    OMG I knew he was 10000000% guilty before this article, but wow... this solidifies everything. I am LIVID! Please do NOT find this scum innocent of anything... please!!!

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    What the hell ever happened to the concept that the "probative value" of the evidence outweighs the deficiences in the warrant? All i can think is that the evidence would have been so prejudicial to the defendant that he could not have possibly received a fair trial.

    A real POS this creep !!

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    I am disgusted in believing there was a chance he was duped. I am even more disgusted that our system is so broken that it let TLM out in the first place and then it did not allow that to be in evidence. I just could not wrap my head around what was missing ...

    If that wasn't the smoking gun I dont know what is. I am going to church in a few minutes and pray that the Jury gets it right. Then I am going home to shower and cry my eyes out.


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    Insert an EXTREMELY LARGE LINE of expletives here.
    Seriously.
    How could they stuff up that warrant?! WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MESSING THAT UP?!


    "We have no evidence that he wanted children"
    Yes, we do... it was just THROWN OUT.
    And now, I am going to THROW UP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopTop View Post
    Mike Knoll: At first, a curled up Michael Rafferty whimpers and complains. But then he stares into space, and defies and denies.

    At first, the police lean in close to talk soft and caring. But then they lean back in their chairs and taunt.

    read the article: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741811.html
    Also from that article:
    "What would your mother want you to do in this situation?" Loam asks.

    "Get a lawyer," Rafferty replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorgQueen View Post
    Insert an EXTREMELY LARGE LINE of expletives here.
    Seriously.
    How could they stuff up that warrant?! WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MESSING THAT UP?!


    "We have no evidence that he wanted children"
    Yes, we do... it was just THROWN OUT.
    And now, I am going to THROW UP.
    I can only suppose LE thought that the warrant to search the vehicle was sufficient to search anything that was contained within it.

    I feel the need to go a 1000 mile walk in the bush right now.

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    I wonder... can these findings on his computer, etc, be used later to charge him with other offences? (such as possession of child pornography)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopTop View Post
    For three months leading to the murder of Victoria 'Tori' Stafford, Michael Rafferty searched the Internet for 'underage rape, real underage rape, real underage rape pictures, pre-teen nude, pre-teen model galleries and nude pre-teen.'

    read the article: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741946.html
    Wow. This is one of the most disturbing articles i have read in a long time.

    I can't believe the search warrant was not executed properly.

    Sick. he is a sick, sick person.
    No wonder why Rodney couldn't stand to be in court sometimes.

    Come on jury...find this sick pos guilty. if he gets off, it will be like Holmolka redux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorgQueen View Post
    Insert an EXTREMELY LARGE LINE of expletives here.
    No kidding.

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    Yet another guilty person passing a poly, they are worthless imo

    "In court, without the jury present, it was noted McClintic thought she had failed the polygraph test, although she hadn't."

    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741656.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post
    OMG WHAT A SICK &^*%! I always wondered why nothing was released about his laptop; now I know and I feel absolutely sick. I am so disgusted and this is very telling of whose idea it was to abduct Tori. WTH? Why was this held back from the jurors? It's who MR is and very telling of his mind frame. OMG! MOO
    Me too. I assumed there was nothing on the computer. Monster. A Monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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    omg... how vile and disgusting.

    I am at a serious loss of words esp the fact the warrant was screwed up
    This bee my opinion

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    I love Jim Smyth.


    "The nice thing about the place you're going to be spending a good chunk of your life is they actually have glass cells so you and Bernardo can make googly eyes at each other all day, whatever you guys do in there. So it's nice meeting you, Mikey. Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you're going to be spending it in.
    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741811.html
    ♥♥♥ In Memory of Tori ♥♥♥

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    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post
    I want to extend my deepest sympathies to anyone who feel victim to MR. All those women who he played and took advantage of, I am truly and deeply sorry for the pain and devastation he had left upon your lives. God bless you.
    I am sorry for them too, but there's a part of me that's angry after reading those news reports. I'm sorry, but who would continue a relationship with someone who "jokes" about turning their children into gifts??

    I'm reminded of the warning about "willful blindness" given to the jury today. I hope this case will serve as a warning to people to take disturbing behavior seriously, especially when it comes to children, and to report violent crime -- if not for justice for yourself, for the protection of others.

    Think of how many times people supporting Rafferty have pointed to the fact that he had no criminal record as evidence of his innocence! Doesn't mean much, does it.

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    heartbreaking! and even Tara and Rodney showed as deceptive on polys, why do they even do them?

    http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19741681.html

    God bless Tori and her family, this is just too much on top of what they have already gone through
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxfactor View Post
    He's a pedophile, TLM was the innocent dupe.
    TLM a few opportunities to save Tori when MR was not in the car. I don't believe for a second she was an innocent dupe. She is just as involved.
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