05-12-2012, 01:56 AM #1
CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #15
Sierra LaMar, 15, has been missing since Friday, March 16. She left home early that morning to walk to her bus stop for school. Her cell phone was found along a local roadway shortly after, and her purse/bag was also found later.
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05-12-2012, 10:01 AM #2
The thing I'm wondering is, if Sierra was targeted and someone knew the time she walked to the bus stop, why take her right at the end of her driveway? Why not wait until she is out on the road walking to the bus stop? Once she was in the car, they're going to have to turn around, to head back in the direction of the main roads, right? (The cul de sacs I'm familiar with don't have an outlet street, there is a circle that makes a turn and goes back out the same way.) If she had already been on the road walking to the bus stop, it would have been simpler and faster to just slow down, throw the car in Park, step out and grab her arm, throw her in the car, jump back in and drive off. Two seconds... that's all the time they would need.
Makes me think she was acquainted with this person and just accepted a ride rather than walk all the way to the bus stop. One-half a mile doesn't sound like much, until you get out there and start walking it. A lot can happen in those few minutes it takes to walk it.
05-12-2012, 10:12 AM #3
I don't know but I would think less chance of a witness.
05-12-2012, 10:25 AM #4
I missed AMW last night, how was it?
05-12-2012, 12:39 PM #5
05-12-2012, 01:14 PM #6
The video of her walk to the bus stop showed just how exposed she would have been, and drove home in my mind how wrong it was for her to have to had walked that walk...
Others who saw it, please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
05-12-2012, 01:27 PM #7Registered User
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JDB, do you recall the 'update' about the Jetta by any chance?
05-12-2012, 01:42 PM #8Registered User
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Also on Google Earth you can see a lot of recent work on the property right next door over the last 10-12 months. Basically a new building where there was a much smaller one over the summer of 2011. Could have been temporary workers there around that time.
IMO, the bus stop looks like it is way in the open (mostly sod farms in the area) and she could have been seen from quite a distance. She may have been spotted there previously.
05-12-2012, 01:44 PM #9
05-12-2012, 01:49 PM #10Registered User
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thx deanna- wasn't sure if something might have been elaborated on
05-12-2012, 02:25 PM #11
05-12-2012, 03:50 PM #12
**Forgive me as I am still catching up from the previous thread so I have brought over a few posts from previous thread**
Originally Posted by Skewed View
For some reason I've had the feeling that when all is said & done, the bag placement thing may very well turn out to have been done for some reason so stupid & trivial we wouldn't guess it in a million years. Every case seems to have some strange, out of place detail(s) that seem so significant that we get hung up on them, and then they turn out to be nothing more than artifacts of the chaos of human events. The bag could be one of those.
So, while I will NOT totally abandon my thoughts involving the staging of the bag.. I have however come to believe its altogether possible that this infamous bag is much like SkewedView has described above in that it's possible that the bag has been an incidental from the start and basically irrelevant as far as putting weight of importance or meaning on the bag..
Another poster in the last thread(tho I did not quote) also brings up another very real possibility of it having been stumbled upon within hours of it being thrown out and the person either neatly gathered it and placed by the shed.. Or I say possibly even took it thinking they'd found themselves a mighty nice bag.. Until soon thereafter realizing on the news who/what the bag was.. Terrified to admit it and wanting zero involvement(if even just by accident) in the case.. They neatly pack the things in the bag and place at the shed..
In the end we sadly MAY NOT EVER KNOW what, if any this Juicy Couture bag's role/motive was in the case..
Originally Posted by MyTinkieGirl
<respectfully snipped by me>
I'm gonna stick with, perhaps, an infatuated person, maybe a "follower" on her account, maybe someone just reading, or maybe someone she has had tweet "fights" with. I've even thought of a "safe" person/pseudo friend who she wouldn't have a problem getting in their car and then they'd bring her to someone else. I can't help but think it might be a peer, or someone in their late teens/early 20's.
*All of this possible from her posting photos in tweets and via other social media sites.. It's as easy as 1-2-3..a-b-c.. For anyone with computer access.. Geotagging and metadata.. IMO this topic/issue alone is worth discussing for the simple fact of making parents aware and therefor alert to how easily their children can be found and tracked to their actual home address.. And the child having never even so much as posted their real name, or any other personal facts.. From their simply posting photos from their phone, tablet, laptop, iPod..
IMO definitely worth parents looking into making sure their children are doing all they can to protect themselves while on the world wide web.. Jmo..
Originally Posted by Pensfan
Maybe the monster was a nocturnal person (many teens, druggies and criminals are) and he was awake at 7 am because he hadn't gone home from his evening's "activities"?
I am hoping that the latest "break" of the black hooded, red Jetta is the breadcrumb that suddenly shines the light in the direction to the trail of breadcrumbs to the perp and most importantly to Sierra..
Originally Posted by KariKae
Especially interesting since mom's BF is in the construction business. Long ago, I wonder if she was snatched by someone who came by to see step dad. Construction workers are notorious for beginning work early.
Maybe LE did find evidence in the car? Then followed the driver's cell pings? Can they work that fast?
Because Rick having a daughter of his own that does in fact live part time there in the Paquita Espana residence *IMO could somehow have been a possible target.. A perp in meeting or knowing Rick, even casually possibly had seen Rick and his daughter.. IMO the thought has crossed my mind in my trying to look at absolutely all of the wide range of possibilities that why not? Why not could it be that Sierra possibly wasn't the original target.. Maybe it was the other young teenaged girl that lives in the home part time that was who the perp initially saw or was interested in??.. IMO while not likely it is still however only one of the vast amount of possibilities in this case..
IMO I just believe that here from my armchair sleuthing position that it just seems awfully and painfully obvious that construction sites would have long since been cleared.. Especially in us almost at the 2 month mark.. But that's easy to say from my cush, armchair position.. <--That I will fully admit and it's why I do try so very hard to not be harsh or judgemental of the men/women who are working their azzes off to find and bring Sierra home..
Just as KariKae mentions in her above post I'm praying like heck that the black hooded, red VW Jetta yielded something, anything that is bringing them closer to finding Sierra..
- THE END-
** my apologies for this being one of my long, droning posts that seem to never end.. Have been so overwhelmed with emotions in these last two days with the case right in my neck of the woods finding the 2 Bain sisters ALIVE.. Along with our beautiful, Tori Stafford receiving the long 3 year awaited justice for the man who stole from her, her life, and stole from this world a precious young girl that could have been anyone and anything she ever wanted to be in this world.. She could've changed our world in ways we will now never know.. I do know that in her death tho, she has touched and changed lives in a very real, very deep way and SHE WILL NEVER, EVER BE FORGOTTEN!! Rest In Peace, precious Victoria!
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05-12-2012, 04:02 PM #13
I've read some theories about the bag and it does not seem possible that a woman found the clothing, folded it a put it by the shed with her books nicely stacked underneath. This area is soo remote, no homes are near. The shed is isolated off the road and is a nonworking abandoned shed. The cactus is large and the bag was behind it. The shed is far from Sierras home. Although it is a few streets south, the streets are about a mile apart. In my opinion if someone was walking by it would be because they ran out of gas. If you witnessed someone there you would immediately be suspicious. IMO of course.
05-12-2012, 04:15 PM #14
05-12-2012, 04:20 PM #15
If the red car was picked up right in the area where some of Sierra's things were found, presumably the bag...shouldn't any other car have been picked up as well? Meaning, if this car is NOT involved...how did the bag get there? And did it pick up anyone getting out of the car, etc...
I think the car must be involved, if this was truly the only car on tape that has yet to be identified and was seen in multiple spots of interest. I wonder if LE looked at tapes from before 7am on that day, for instance, if this bag HAD been planted...Just my opinion, of course.
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