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Last edited by Kimster; 05-12-2012 at 11:46 AM. Reason: added thread 6
I don't know how they sleep at night. I positively sobbed for what seemed like an eternity after sentencing. I was sent a letter a couple years ago requisting me to be a juror again for the supreme court. I, of course asked to be excused. I found the whole process traumatic enough, being a single girl in my very early 20's. And now, since having kids, I cry at any sappy sad moment in a tv show, movie, or even commerical. I know I wouldn't be able to keep my composure being a juror again.
Last edited by Kimster; 05-12-2012 at 11:51 AM. Reason: repaired quote
The Federal Govt of Australia abolished the death penalty in 1973 and as such there exists no provision for the death penalty in any State or Territory.
Life imprisonment in many cases means files marked 'Never to be Released' and sometimes, depending on various factors, the defendant's sentencing can be cumulative if multiple charges involved. This means that multiple sentences can be added together simultaneously but limitations may apply depending on jurisdiction.
Nothing like the US though where I've seen people sentenced to a couple of hundred years for crimes!
((((hugs)))) you poor thing...thats so unfair....
They still have the death penalty here....I personally agree with it....however, I can see the case against it...
I wish we could just have crappy nothing islands in the middle of nowhere to send these people...
one island for the druggies,
one for the murders,
one for the pedo's etc etc...let them fight their own battles, feed there own addictions and leave them there....maybe give them seeds to grow their own food....or just do a parachute drop of army rat packs....bugger giving them cooks/educational offices,air-con,tv, and other such 'necessities' all paid for by the had earning aussie tax payer....
Well, time to zzzzzzzz .... Good Night. Let's hope the next few days will bring good news from QPS.
Wouldn't that be nice..? I get the whole whilst being in gaol having systems in place to rehibilitate them. But then again, prisoners seems to have greater access to further education and health care and recreational facilities, than people who are working hard earning an honest living and are just bearly keeping their heads above water. And can you believe that they then grip about the pettiest things..? http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/s...-1226353797289
Lol! Yes, but now we need another Island. The Lost Island would be perfect!Originally Posted by BrizzychickinUSA
Lol they did. Called Australia.
And we flourished on the beaches and sent back Dame Edna and Neighbours.
Anyway, I am off to bed. Happy Mother's day to everyone out there. Happy Mother's day to Allison. Hopefully the girls can be with Priscilla and Vanessa today.
Last edited by Lu-Lu; 05-12-2012 at 12:25 PM. Reason: typo.
Today's Sunday Mail Headline..Allison 'knew killer' police set for arrest.
POLICE believe the person who murdered Allison Baden-Clay was known to her, and are quietly confident they will make an arrest in the near future.
I hope that justice will be done for Allison and her family very soon. And I hope her killer is feeling the pressure!
How come the police are now saying that GBC has not given a statement to them when in his first near Oscar winning performance he stated whilst shaking his head that 'I have told the Police everything I know'?
You are right, I was being sarcastic. On the one hand saying he has told them 'everything' publicly and despite having reported her missing, being at the police station several times still not have given a formal statement.
@Indogwetrust - late in the last thread you stated:- "If only to be pedantic Berry, he's an SC, not quite a QC, but you never know it may make a difference"
At the risk of being pedantic back at you, i think you will find an SC is the equivalent of a QC. In NSW they ceased the appointment of any new QC's in 1992 which were formally appointed by the Governor upon advice from the Attorney General.
The NSW Bar Association subsequently established it's own equivalent rank of SC. I believe
they did the same thing in QLD a couple of years later.
Refer below from QLD Bar Association website:-
In Queensland, Queen's Counsel were appointed by the Governor-in-Council upon advice from the Chief Justice of Queensland.* In 1994, the Bar Association established its own equivalent rank of Senior Counsel (SC) who are appointed by the Chief Justice after an exhaustive process of consultation with members of the profession and the judiciary.
I just detest such authorative misinformation, particularly when we have so few facts to work with.
Last edited by HN man; 05-12-2012 at 05:09 PM. Reason: Typo
HN_man is quite correct. QC = SC. I think the Republican movement was to blame for the change ...
GBC has hired himself a 1st class brief (or his solicitor has).
I think hiring legal eagles the way he has is standard practice amongst those with the funds to do so, particularly when you're going to be the first person the police will suspect. My cousin is a senior partner for probably the most prestigious law firm in Australia and he said to me never talk to the police except to give your name, address and date of birth and call him immediately (this was back in my protest days). SO GBC's actions in this regard seem reasonable to me.
Last edited by SKMA; 05-12-2012 at 05:38 PM.
I really don't think anyone could have anticipated the immense amount of nationwide media interest in this case, least of all GBC. The pressure must be enormous on those associated with the crime.
Mr Baden Clay is under no obligation to provide a statement. If he is to be charged with an offence then it is up to the Crown to prove each element of the offence beyond reasonable doubt. It is not the job of either he or his lawyers to disprove anything. He does not have to prove, or even comment on, where he was or what he was doing at any time. If he is to eventually appear in court it is highly unlikely that he will take the witness stand to give evidence. If any of these realities and rights appear to the wider public to be a expression of a consciousness of guilt then it is a good thing that he would be tried by only twelve people, all of whom will be required to objectively assess the evidence tested in court, and not the evidence alleged by media or public speculation. As to how a lawyer can represent a person who makes admissions in relation to aspects of an offence, that is the essence of the lawyer's role. The Crown can accuse a citizen of a crime and then utilise the entire resources of the State to try and convict them. A single citizen, regardless of their status, has nothing like this power. Often times a person will be accused by police and the Crown of either the wrong offence, or of too many counts, and it is the job of the defence lawyers to make sure that this is brought to light. But lawyers do not generally have hundreds of searchers, forensic services on call, a compliant media and the weight of public opinion behind them. They can only use the law, their intellect and cross-examination skill to stand between a citizen and the State. Each year many people in Qld are accused of offences they did not commit or of the wrong offences. Rape is a common charge which is brought against the innocent. Put yourself in the position of such a person and ask what sort of lawyer you would then want standing between you and the State, plus a media calling for your blood.
If the QPS were close to an arrest then they would simply carry out the arrest, not proclaim it in the media.