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    Quote Originally Posted by Candarella View Post
    UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE!!!! Please tell us more about what he was talking about.
    Let's look at it from a different perspective - at least the 3 girls are having some fun for a few hours and forgetting about the pain (hopefully)! Kids love shows bags, rides, etc.
    *** The above comment is my personal opinion and may be based on known facts or just my imagination ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbie Elliott View Post
    Many years ago, I was shocked++ when I discovered that there are many women out there who sacrifice their own children to keep their man - irrespective of how vile the man is, or whatever he does to the children or gets the mother to do to them.

    Too often we hear about children who have died having been physically & emotionally tortured by the "stepfather", without the mother intervening. I fear that the children we hear about are just a small percentage of the children who are treated this way. Often the children have had to die a long agonising death before their plight is acknowledged.

    Re women who help their men kill:

    Sian Kingi was selected by Val Mae Beck to be a virgin sacrifice for Beck's younger boyfriend to rape and murder. Sian was lured into the trap by Beck who asked Sian to help her find her lost puppy.

    Beck died in jail last year (I think) from a heart condition (I think). There was concern that Beck died because she had not received adequate medical treatment for her heart condition. I'm unsure if this was investigated, but an official investigation was proposed.

    It's hard to know what to say to this. Hadn't this woman already taken more than her fair share of the world's resources?
    Yep....Daniel Valerio....Autopsy revealed he had injuries that mimicked someone dying in a major, MAJOR car accident...........In the months before his death, the mother would let the stepfather, poo and pee on him....and he had been in hospital before too with injuries. Hubby was badly affected by this case.

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    [QUOTE=barrosa;7934344]Yep I was there won't say anything else but I knew you guys would be interested. It's very frustrating for us all but as my husband said he is innocent until proven guilty. And there you have it a man's answer. I didn't know what to say to hubby - except I just thought and know as a community justice will prevail x[/QUOTE

    Sounds to me that he is feeling confident that he won't be arrested??

    I wonder Why? Maybe he wont be?

    I think it is possible that we will be hanging out here chatting about Why he hasn't been arrested for quite sometime to come...??

    I am feeling a little disheartened at the moment....I really feel like QPS know it is him but probably don't have enough evidece to get him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseClosed View Post
    Let's look at it from a different perspective - at least the 3 girls are having some fun for a few hours and forgetting about the pain (hopefully)! Kids love shows bags, rides, etc.
    Yip, you're right...good point...although I dont know if I would want my kids there around the whole talk of the town scenario. I would sort of distance them from the Brookfield community for a while specifically considering he is there holding a freaking forum... Poor kids...must have so many unanswered questions...

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    What is sad is that he is using them to hide behind IMO I pray for allisons soul for peace. My god what a world we live in

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi2456 View Post
    Anita Cobby murder.
    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/n...g/cobby/1.html

    I was in a state after reading this. Why even comment on such a horrendous heinous crime in relation to this one if not knowingly making some comment! Remember the man who made this comment was actually in charge of the Sian Kingi case. You would think of all people HE would know how public opinion can be influenced by such a comment. I don't get it.
    That was an horrific crime. I was in Sydney when that happened and even the limited details released were scarring.

    Couple of things I got from http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/n...g/cobby/6.html is the logic and time involved before the father reported Anita missing. Much more likely to behave like that when a loved one goes missing, rather than call police half an hour after her expected return.

    This crime also involved group participation. And it involved a female confidante who gave police new evidence rather than being drawn into the case by meeting with the suspect - http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/n...g/cobby/9.html.

    One of the tough male suspects was so scared when being captured, he wet his pants.

    Might be no similarity or maybe detectives have pointed out certain similarities in high profile cases to keep the public and perp interest at a high. I think mentioning cases that are emotive will keep public anger and angst at a high (Sian Kingi, Daniel Morcombe, Anita Cobby, all generate immediate and severe hatred for the murderers).

    These disgraces who killed Anita Cobby were serious sick cases. Not sure what we're dealing with in Allison's murder. It's slightly more complex, but no less disgusting, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrosa View Post
    What is sad is that he is using them to hide behind IMO I pray for allisons soul for peace. My god what a world we live in
    Thanks for your post Barrosa, we appreciate it. I understand, you not wanting to say too much. Your mind must be running wild with theories etc. Just a yes or no...was he rallying everyone up trying to convince him of his innocence. Did you see ABC's parents there...I can only imagine what they must have thought of this behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixnaye View Post
    Isadora what do your friends who owned the blue car think now that ABC has been found murdered, are they still close to GBC?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mani View Post
    How can you justify a statement that someone is not connected to the murder? Do you know who the murderer/s is?
    1) I don't believe I have to justify any statement / opinion I make on this forum
    2) the couple are not listed with QPS as POI, therefore will not be named on this forum.
    I wrote what I did, because a lot of energy was getting deflected from real sleuthing by wondering whether it was one of his mistress, (plural) car

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    If he was holding a forum I am sure the media would be twittering it. I do not believe that is true.

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    The guy who was the ringleader in the Anita Cobby murder, was an absolute frigging lunatic....He was into sexing animals, and slitting their throats just as he was orgasming.....He tried it on a guy in WA....Him and his friends went a raped a guy (his supposed boyfriend) and cut him up good...But the lad lived. He had also attacked another girl about 8 months prior to Anita's murder........He was an absolute maniac.

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    Do not for one moment put me in the category of those who believe GBC is innocent. Mani, read through my posts and you will get what my thoughts are regarding who the murder/s are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrosa View Post
    What is sad is that he is using them to hide behind IMO I pray for allisons soul for peace. My god what a world we live in
    Exactly what my husband just said to me, plus some other choice words about the coward haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JK673 View Post
    If he was holding a forum I am sure the media would be twittering it. I do not believe that is true.
    What I think that poster meant (sorry I forgot who posted it). Was that the community was his forum...........Meaning, that the community was his stage.

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    Feeling very disheartned nothing is happening. Is there the remotest possibility that he's innocent? Is there ANYONE out there who has some inside info and can leak something???

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    Barossa only mentioned GBC was at the show, are the kids actually there too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blonde View Post
    I know what FA stands for..F... All. I think tomthe should be to the. Just a typo.
    Oh I vote for ipad typo, I make so may typos on the ipad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    If that piece of **** and I were alone in a room only one of us would walk out

    There were 2 at that vehicle.......one at the back leaning having a smoke and another went to talk to Daniel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbie Elliott View Post
    Many years ago, I was shocked++ when I discovered that there are many women out there who sacrifice their own children to keep their man - irrespective of how vile the man is, or whatever he does to the children or gets the mother to do to them.

    Too often we hear about children who have died having been physically & emotionally tortured by the "stepfather", without the mother intervening. I fear that the children we hear about are just a small percentage of the children who are treated this way. Often the children have had to die a long agonising death before their plight is acknowledged.

    Re women who help their men kill:

    Sian Kingi was selected by Val Mae Beck to be a virgin sacrifice for Beck's younger boyfriend to rape and murder. Sian was lured into the trap by Beck who asked Sian to help her find her lost puppy.

    Beck died in jail last year (I think) from a heart condition (I think). There was concern that Beck died because she had not received adequate medical treatment for her heart condition. I'm unsure if this was investigated, but an official investigation was proposed.

    It's hard to know what to say to this. Hadn't this woman already taken more than her fair share of the world's resources?
    You may find this link interesting reading Bobbie - changed her name to Faye Cramb (don't know why)

    http://www.courts.qld.gov.au/__data/...f-20100507.pdf

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    Sorry guys love to stay but am getting a but 'tired and emotional' ( for our US friends this means I think my 3 wines have put me over he limit ;>)

    He limit is probably correct but I meant ' the' limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbie Elliott View Post
    Beck died in jail last year (I think) from a heart condition (I think). There was concern that Beck died because she had not received adequate medical treatment for her heart condition.
    That piece of filth died on the operating table in May 2008, named Faye Cramb by then, at around 120 kg (I think), during an unsuccessful heart operation. My only regret is there was anaesthetic involved, if I was the surgeon I would have tried to revive her so she could feel some pain.

    This was a story before her death :
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1111116261506

    I get huge satisfaction that "In one bashing, two prisoners clubbed the mother-of-six with a sock loaded with a jam tin. It left permanent nerve damage to the side of her head."

    Some form of justice. Rot in hell, monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrosa View Post
    What is sad is that he is using them to hide behind IMO I pray for allisons soul for peace. My god what a world we live in
    Feeling for you barossa. Seems like tonight was quite a "show", and this has touched you deeply. Must be so hard living amongst it all. Hang in there - and thanks for your sharing! xo

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeechick View Post
    Gosh Dark Shadow - I said the practically the same thing last night back on page 5 in that I thought GBC was not the actual killer and it was not well received - because it disagreed with the majority of posters who must know something more than I do about this case as they have more or less 'hung, drawn and quartered' GBC. Good on you for posting it. Obviously being a criminologist, has some pull over the forum here.
    Hi coffeechick

    sorry you got that impression, the theory that the boogy man did it is quite an accepted one by many peeps, your in good company!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by willough View Post
    What I think that poster meant (sorry I forgot who posted it). Was that the community was his forum...........Meaning, that the community was his stage.
    Yip spot on...Willough...Thats what I meant! Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar88 View Post
    You may find this link interesting reading Bobbie - changed her name to Faye Cramb (don't know why)

    http://www.courts.qld.gov.au/__data/...f-20100507.pdf
    She's dead.....Police were hoping to get info out of her, regarding 3 incidences (I think murders)....But something happened to her and she never regained concsiousness....She died with all her awful insights held within. MOOOOOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rational View Post
    Sorry guys love to stay but am getting a but 'tired and emotional' ( for our US friends this means I think my 3 wines have put me over he limit ;>)

    He limit is probably correct but I meant ' the' limit
    Three bottles? Lolol

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