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    The influence of MSM coverage regarding the Trayvon Martin case

    I see this topic peppered through almost every thread here.


    Responsible? Irresponsible?

    How has it influenced the public perception?

    What are your views?


    Please discuss civilly.

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    CBS, IMO, made a major gaffe today when they published that TM had bruises and blood on his head, based on someone's interpretation of the handwriting on the AR diagrams. They really need to print a retraction!

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/18...meal-evidence/

    "Diagrams also note Martin was hurt in the fight: blood on his head, a bruise around his eye, scarring on both hands."
    ~~~~~

    The abbrieviations/ handwriting actually says "Black short" near the hair, and "brown" near the eyes. Both of these are repeated in the narrative. The diagram is a worksheet used during the autopsy itself-- weights and fluids are listed there in shorthand, etc.

    I REALLY wonder who interpreted this for CBS as "blood" and "bruise"? That is more than an error or embarrassing-- it is potentially inflammatory, and misleading. That should have been VERY easily confirmed. I really hope CBS prints a retraction. I notice the reporter, or whomever, didn't comment on any other abbrieviations or shorthand on the diagrams. That makes me think "someone" was either jumping to conclusions, or deliberately misleading/ inflaming the public.

    Let's hear the apology on this one!

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    Here is one of the first nonsense articles I saw in the case. They said John saw the whole fight.

    The article was deleted or the addy was changed. Here it is scribbed.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/87068236/W...cked-Zimmerman
    .............Any man's death diminishes me because I am
    involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
    it tolls for thee. . . .
    from Meditation 17
    by John Donne

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    I have a feeling this thread is gonna be quite enlightening. I kinda doubt the media will love it, but that is okay. They need to be held responsible.

    WTH ever happened to caring more about getting it accurate than grabbing a scoop? Very disheartening. <sigh>
    Last edited by beach; 05-18-2012 at 09:38 PM. Reason: kant spel

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    The truth isn't important, anymore.

    First I heard was the NBC fiasco with the 911 call. Someone at NBC selectively edited the dispatcher and included GZ saying that TM was black. NBC admitted the tape was edited. (NBC deleted the part when the dispatcher asked the race.) Strange how one of the most important parts was deleted. I heard they apologized--probably at 4 in the morning after a public service announcement.

    I watched the ABC tape of GZ arriving at the Police Station. You couldn't see much of anything important. Later, ABC supposedly took a layer of filtering(?) off to see more clearly.

    I think it was a CNN commentator who remarked about the co*n word on the 911 tape. Another commentator thought GZ was saying "F'n cold." The FBI couldn't figure out the word after "F'n."

    MSM is demonstrating what a cluster-of-idiots is.

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    It is chilling when the Media chooses sides and clings on for dear life. As a veteran of another high profile Media Hoax, I can explain some of their "tricks."

    Usually the side they choose is linked immediately to an historical metanarrative..often one that has great emotional resonance to a group of people. I am NOT disparaging these metanarratives or the historical reasons they exist. I'm pointing out that making an accusation of a crime FIT into old grievances, hurts and wrongs...helps the media begin its process of shaping a case and pre-convicting one side. To that end, the Duke hoax was immediately linked to the Metanarrative of White Men of Privilege raping poor Black women. This was referenced constantly. In this case, it is White Men killing innocent Blacks because of Profiling.

    So now we bring all the anger at past profiling and racial disparity and we dump it on this Watch Captain in Florida. He can subsequently do no right in the media and the "victim" becomes immediately "perfect."

    To that end, we need pictures. Let's take an old picture of a mean looking GZ and use that. OOPS cannot use any recent pictures of TM where he is pretending that Gang banger look...because the public will not embrace him if we do. So the media finds a picture of him at 13 years old...a CHILD'S picture...no stubble, no gold teeth...a child's picture. And a beautiful child who...yes, does look like a popular President.

    So they use that old picture for weeks. This is NOT the face GZ saw that night...it's a child's face. But the Media is about building outrage. Profiling THIS innocent child? How ridiculous, readers fume. (including ME, at first.)

    Now we constantly reference the Skittles....a child's treat. Later we hear this 17 year old has an illegal drug in his system but that is WELL after the image of a 13 year old child with Skittles is seared in the publics brain.

    The media Image Making and linking to the emotional Metanarrative sets the stage.

    Now the mechanics. Any unflattering info about TM must immediately be downplayed or ignored...the changing of schools in mid-year, the three suspensions, the Facebook page, how LONG till they are mentioned and in what context? Where is info placed...beneath a headline ravaging GZ...who has every possible grudge holder interviewed for dirt and reported with zeal. GZ is demonized...by cutting the 911 tape and running it cut many times...by denying his injuries...by finding an "expert" that identifies the screams as TM's...when we are never told that TM's FATHER SAID they were NOT his sons Screams.

    Headlines are a tool as well. Today ABC has a headline :

    WITNESS BELIEVES GM INTENDED TM TO DIE!!!!

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...ry?id=16380864

    Read the article and you also see at the end that the WITNESS at the scene supports GZ's story AND has TM beating him with Martial Arts Style...but the Media LIKED this quote for a headline...to smear GZ some more...made by a woman who apparently thinks that GZ KNEW he was going to be beaten to a inch of his life and therefore premediated the whole deal. She suggests he could have shot a peson straddling him and beating him...in the LEG! Could someone explain exactly HOW to implement that? Maybe diagram the mechanics when someone is straddling you? That is so ridiculous and DUMB that it is appalling that this is considered relevant at all. That "witness" is giving a NON FACTUAL OPINION that no one can PROVE...but it is the Big Headine. Why? Because the media knows many folks just SCAN headlines and do not actually read. So this headline feeds anger...makes it harder for GZ to get a fair trial. And many will never READ the full context of this Witness' statement at all. Mission of fomenting more hate...ACCOMPLISHED!

    Which is the whole idea...because the Media has chosen "a side" before they know the evidence. In fact they are CREATING False evidence to inflame potential jurors and force weak political DAs to file weak cases the Law does not support. Nifong. Corey. Placating public opinion first and foremost. Public opinion fueled by a rabid biased press...inciting for Mob justice. Based on their often later proven FALSE evidence. You cannot unring a Bell.

    And if Race is part of the case...The Media is glad to use that to infuriate as well. Subsequently, we have the media reporting on racial slurs that later , much later...they admit were never spoken. That is RECKLESS. Knowing the implications, the hurt, THAT CHARGE should never be made unless it is 100 SOLID. But the Media is like excited gossipy Neighbors...OMG...OMG ...say anything then check it later!!


    They initally call GZ "White"....to fit the Metanarrative of "Whites Killing Blacks Because of Profiling"....then when GZ's heritage is unfortunately MIXED...they invent the term "White Hispanic." Then, horrors, he has Black Heritage, Black friends, has mentored Black children. But this is DOWNPLAYED. Instead, the Congressional Black Caucus is interviewed for quotes about TM being "shot like a dog." etc. This is all part of making this case so RACIAL...that defending GZ in any manner makes one a RACIST. This is a useful "Shut-UP" tool that the media uses. If you don't see Crystal Mangum as Sister Survivor raped by three White Men of Privilege JUST BECAUSE she has no LAX DNA and every orifice is chock full of OTHER male DNA...then you are a RACIST! Or you hate women and love rape!

    This is terribly unfair. It is possible to respect folks of all races but base one's opinons on FACT not emotion or allegiance. A Black friend who says GZ is not a racist should be allowed to speak and shown the same respect by the media...as any of us would wish. It takes bravery.

    If you read about GZ's injuries, read the Law and say, as Harvard Professor Dershowitz says...there should never have been charges...the editorials and media spin is that you are racist, or a gun-nut. How do they do this....by quoting in articles "experts" who analyze people who do not agree with them...as possessing these evil qualities. How many of these erroneous emotional "quotes" are ever retracted or corrected by the Media in later articles? Have you seen articles about the exaggerations made by these Congresspeople about this case? Why not? Does the Media have no responsibility to the truth?

    Once the Media sets the hysteria going...witness statements change. The young boy who saw G on top is "corrected" by his Mother. Dad "corrects" whose voice he heard screaming. Because it becomes scary to oppose the Media in full outrage. Then they report death threats by the Black Panthers and our Government tolerates those threats. Gee, any witness, any reader...now gets the point to shut up or go with the Media Mob.

    Of couse, we have the Entertainment Ghouls...who exploit these tragedies for ratings...another "media." How often they show their ignorance of the evidence is STUNNING. But they feel NO OBLIGATION to be INFORMED. They exist to pander emotion...push hatred...convict in the public's mind before trial. It is a barbaric profession. Lawyers who go on TV and push slander, lies and misinformation for RATINGS and personal enrichment. And they are quoted as if they are "serious media." Remember NG's wailing about how the Duke accusers fingernails were brutally ripped off?

    Lee press on nails. She did her nails in the bathroom...the OTHER stripper testified to that.

    Now we have an array of disgruntled old girlfriends, Middle Easterner work associates...blah, blah. The Media takes their every word as GOSPEL...they are the embodiments of perfect truth. No one who smears GZ could ever be lying, have an agenda or a grudge. After all, it's only those who SUPPORT GZ who MUST be liars, racists, or all of the above.

    We live in an age where Media credibility is near ZERO...but we love to believe them when their VENDETTAS fit our opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Z View Post
    CBS, IMO, made a major gaffe today when they published that TM had bruises and blood on his head, based on someone's interpretation of the handwriting on the AR diagrams. They really need to print a retraction!

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/18...meal-evidence/

    "Diagrams also note Martin was hurt in the fight: blood on his head, a bruise around his eye, scarring on both hands."
    ~~~~~

    The abbrieviations/ handwriting actually says "Black short" near the hair, and "brown" near the eyes. Both of these are repeated in the narrative. The diagram is a worksheet used during the autopsy itself-- weights and fluids are listed there in shorthand, etc.

    I REALLY wonder who interpreted this for CBS as "blood" and "bruise"? That is more than an error or embarrassing-- it is potentially inflammatory, and misleading. That should have been VERY easily confirmed. I really hope CBS prints a retraction. I notice the reporter, or whomever, didn't comment on any other abbrieviations or shorthand on the diagrams. That makes me think "someone" was either jumping to conclusions, or deliberately misleading/ inflaming the public.

    Let's hear the apology on this one!
    I still don't see any retractions. If the author didn't understand the handwriting on the diagram, is it to much to ask that the author read the actual type written report that lists as injuries only the bullet wound and abrasion to left fourth finger?
    That article also claims the bullet had "horizontal" trajectory whereas autopsy says it was directly from front to back.
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by stmarysmead View Post
    It is chilling when the Media chooses sides and clings on for dear life. As a veteran of another high profile Media Hoax, I can explain some of their "tricks."

    Usually the side they choose is linked immediately to an historical metanarrative..often one that has great emotional resonance to a group of people. I am NOT disparaging these metanarratives or the historical reasons they exist. I'm pointing out that making an accusation of a crime FIT into old grievances, hurts and wrongs...helps the media begin its process of shaping a case and pre-convicting one side. To that end, the Duke hoax was immediately linked to the Metanarrative of White Men of Privilege raping poor Black women. This was referenced constantly. In this case, it is White Men killing innocent Blacks because of Profiling.

    So now we bring all the anger at past profiling and racial disparity and we dump it on this Watch Captain in Florida. He can subsequently do no right in the media and the "victim" becomes immediately "perfect."

    To that end, we need pictures. Let's take an old picture of a mean looking GZ and use that. OOPS cannot use any recent pictures of TM where he is pretending that Gang banger look...because the public will not embrace him if we do. So the media finds a picture of him at 13 years old...a CHILD'S picture...no stubble, no gold teeth...a child's picture. And a beautiful child who...yes, does look like a popular President.

    So they use that old picture for weeks. This is NOT the face GZ saw that night...it's a child's face. But the Media is about building outrage. Profiling THIS innocent child? How ridiculous, readers fume. (including ME, at first.)

    Now we constantly reference the Skittles....a child's treat. Later we hear this 17 year old has an illegal drug in his system but that is WELL after the image of a 13 year old child with Skittles is seared in the publics brain.

    The media Image Making and linking to the emotional Metanarrative sets the stage.

    Now the mechanics. Any unflattering info about TM must immediately be downplayed or ignored...the changing of schools in mid-year, the three suspensions, the Facebook page, how LONG till they are mentioned and in what context? Where is info placed...beneath a headline ravaging GZ...who has every possible grudge holder interviewed for dirt and reported with zeal. GZ is demonized...by cutting the 911 tape and running it cut many times...by denying his injuries...by finding an "expert" that identifies the screams as TM's...when we are never told that TM's FATHER SAID they were NOT his sons Screams.

    Headlines are a tool as well. Today ABC has a headline :

    WITNESS BELIEVES GM INTENDED TM TO DIE!!!!

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...ry?id=16380864

    Read the article and you also see at the end that the WITNESS at the scene supports GZ's story AND has TM beating him with Martial Arts Style...but the Media LIKED this quote for a headline...to smear GZ some more...made by a woman who apparently thinks that GZ KNEW he was going to be beaten to a inch of his life and therefore premediated the whole deal. She suggests he could have shot a peson straddling him and beating him...in the LEG! Could someone explain exactly HOW to implement that? Maybe diagram the mechanics when someone is straddling you? That is so ridiculous and DUMB that it is appalling that this is considered relevant at all. That "witness" is giving a NON FACTUAL OPINION that no one can PROVE...but it is the Big Headine. Why? Because the media knows many folks just SCAN headlines and do not actually read. So this headline feeds anger...makes it harder for GZ to get a fair trial. And many will never READ the full context of this Witness' statement at all. Mission of fomenting more hate...ACCOMPLISHED!

    Which is the whole idea...because the Media has chosen "a side" before they know the evidence. In fact they are CREATING False evidence to inflame potential jurors and force weak political DAs to file weak cases the Law does not support. Nifong. Corey. Placating public opinion first and foremost. Public opinion fueled by a rabid biased press...inciting for Mob justice. Based on their often later proven FALSE evidence. You cannot unring a Bell.

    And if Race is part of the case...The Media is glad to use that to infuriate as well. Subsequently, we have the media reporting on racial slurs that later , much later...they admit were never spoken. That is RECKLESS. Knowing the implications, the hurt, THAT CHARGE should never be made unless it is 100 SOLID. But the Media is like excited gossipy Neighbors...OMG...OMG ...say anything then check it later!!


    They initally call GZ "White"....to fit the Metanarrative of "Whites Killing Blacks Because of Profiling"....then when GZ's heritage is unfortunately MIXED...they invent the term "White Hispanic." Then, horrors, he has Black Heritage, Black friends, has mentored Black children. But this is DOWNPLAYED. Instead, the Congressional Black Caucus is interviewed for quotes about TM being "shot like a dog." etc. This is all part of making this case so RACIAL...that defending GZ in any manner makes one a RACIST. This is a useful "Shut-UP" tool that the media uses. If you don't see Crystal Mangum as Sister Survivor raped by three White Men of Privilege JUST BECAUSE she has no LAX DNA and every orifice is chock full of OTHER male DNA...then you are a RACIST! Or you hate women and love rape!

    This is terribly unfair. It is possible to respect folks of all races but base one's opinons on FACT not emotion or allegiance. A Black friend who says GZ is not a racist should be allowed to speak and shown the same respect by the media...as any of us would wish. It takes bravery.

    If you read about GZ's injuries, read the Law and say, as Harvard Professor Dershowitz says...there should never have been charges...the editorials and media spin is that you are racist, or a gun-nut. How do they do this....by quoting in articles "experts" who analyze people who do not agree with them...as possessing these evil qualities. How many of these erroneous emotional "quotes" are ever retracted or corrected by the Media in later articles? Have you seen articles about the exaggerations made by these Congresspeople about this case? Why not? Does the Media have no responsibility to the truth?

    Once the Media sets the hysteria going...witness statements change. The young boy who saw G on top is "corrected" by his Mother. Dad "corrects" whose voice he heard screaming. Because it becomes scary to oppose the Media in full outrage. Then they report death threats by the Black Panthers and our Government tolerates those threats. Gee, any witness, any reader...now gets the point to shut up or go with the Media Mob.

    Of couse, we have the Entertainment Ghouls...who exploit these tragedies for ratings...another "media." How often they show their ignorance of the evidence is STUNNING. But they feel NO OBLIGATION to be INFORMED. They exist to pander emotion...push hatred...convict in the public's mind before trial. It is a barbaric profession. Lawyers who go on TV and push slander, lies and misinformation for RATINGS and personal enrichment. And they are quoted as if they are "serious media." Remember NG's wailing about how the Duke accusers fingernails were brutally ripped off?

    Lee press on nails. She did her nails in the bathroom...the OTHER stripper testified to that.

    Now we have an array of disgruntled old girlfriends, Middle Easterner work associates...blah, blah. The Media takes their every word as GOSPEL...they are the embodiments of perfect truth. No one who smears GZ could ever be lying, have an agenda or a grudge. After all, it's only those who SUPPORT GZ who MUST be liars, racists, or all of the above.

    We live in an age where Media credibility is near ZERO...but we love to believe them when their VENDETTAS fit our opinions.
    An Excellent Post! (Agatha?)

    There is an agenda--sensationalism = viewers = money; and, there is racial bias.

    Where is the media on this?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...thomas-sowell#

    They are absent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stmarysmead View Post
    It is chilling when the Media chooses sides and clings on for dear life. As a veteran of another high profile Media Hoax, I can explain some of their "tricks."

    Usually the side they choose is linked immediately to an historical metanarrative..often one that has great emotional resonance to a group of people. I am NOT disparaging these metanarratives or the historical reasons they exist. I'm pointing out that making an accusation of a crime FIT into old grievances, hurts and wrongs...helps the media begin its process of shaping a case and pre-convicting one side. To that end, the Duke hoax was immediately linked to the Metanarrative of White Men of Privilege raping poor Black women. This was referenced constantly. In this case, it is White Men killing innocent Blacks because of Profiling.

    So now we bring all the anger at past profiling and racial disparity and we dump it on this Watch Captain in Florida. He can subsequently do no right in the media and the "victim" becomes immediately "perfect."

    To that end, we need pictures. Let's take an old picture of a mean looking GZ and use that. OOPS cannot use any recent pictures of TM where he is pretending that Gang banger look...because the public will not embrace him if we do. So the media finds a picture of him at 13 years old...a CHILD'S picture...no stubble, no gold teeth...a child's picture. And a beautiful child who...yes, does look like a popular President.

    So they use that old picture for weeks. This is NOT the face GZ saw that night...it's a child's face. But the Media is about building outrage. Profiling THIS innocent child? How ridiculous, readers fume. (including ME, at first.)

    Now we constantly reference the Skittles....a child's treat. Later we hear this 17 year old has an illegal drug in his system but that is WELL after the image of a 13 year old child with Skittles is seared in the publics brain.

    The media Image Making and linking to the emotional Metanarrative sets the stage.

    Now the mechanics. Any unflattering info about TM must immediately be downplayed or ignored...the changing of schools in mid-year, the three suspensions, the Facebook page, how LONG till they are mentioned and in what context? Where is info placed...beneath a headline ravaging GZ...who has every possible grudge holder interviewed for dirt and reported with zeal. GZ is demonized...by cutting the 911 tape and running it cut many times...by denying his injuries...by finding an "expert" that identifies the screams as TM's...when we are never told that TM's FATHER SAID they were NOT his sons Screams.

    Headlines are a tool as well. Today ABC has a headline :

    WITNESS BELIEVES GM INTENDED TM TO DIE!!!!

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...ry?id=16380864

    Read the article and you also see at the end that the WITNESS at the scene supports GZ's story AND has TM beating him with Martial Arts Style...but the Media LIKED this quote for a headline...to smear GZ some more...made by a woman who apparently thinks that GZ KNEW he was going to be beaten to a inch of his life and therefore premediated the whole deal. She suggests he could have shot a peson straddling him and beating him...in the LEG! Could someone explain exactly HOW to implement that? Maybe diagram the mechanics when someone is straddling you? That is so ridiculous and DUMB that it is appalling that this is considered relevant at all. That "witness" is giving a NON FACTUAL OPINION that no one can PROVE...but it is the Big Headine. Why? Because the media knows many folks just SCAN headlines and do not actually read. So this headline feeds anger...makes it harder for GZ to get a fair trial. And many will never READ the full context of this Witness' statement at all. Mission of fomenting more hate...ACCOMPLISHED!

    Which is the whole idea...because the Media has chosen "a side" before they know the evidence. In fact they are CREATING False evidence to inflame potential jurors and force weak political DAs to file weak cases the Law does not support. Nifong. Corey. Placating public opinion first and foremost. Public opinion fueled by a rabid biased press...inciting for Mob justice. Based on their often later proven FALSE evidence. You cannot unring a Bell.

    And if Race is part of the case...The Media is glad to use that to infuriate as well. Subsequently, we have the media reporting on racial slurs that later , much later...they admit were never spoken. That is RECKLESS. Knowing the implications, the hurt, THAT CHARGE should never be made unless it is 100 SOLID. But the Media is like excited gossipy Neighbors...OMG...OMG ...say anything then check it later!!


    They initally call GZ "White"....to fit the Metanarrative of "Whites Killing Blacks Because of Profiling"....then when GZ's heritage is unfortunately MIXED...they invent the term "White Hispanic." Then, horrors, he has Black Heritage, Black friends, has mentored Black children. But this is DOWNPLAYED. Instead, the Congressional Black Caucus is interviewed for quotes about TM being "shot like a dog." etc. This is all part of making this case so RACIAL...that defending GZ in any manner makes one a RACIST. This is a useful "Shut-UP" tool that the media uses. If you don't see Crystal Mangum as Sister Survivor raped by three White Men of Privilege JUST BECAUSE she has no LAX DNA and every orifice is chock full of OTHER male DNA...then you are a RACIST! Or you hate women and love rape!

    This is terribly unfair. It is possible to respect folks of all races but base one's opinons on FACT not emotion or allegiance. A Black friend who says GZ is not a racist should be allowed to speak and shown the same respect by the media...as any of us would wish. It takes bravery.

    If you read about GZ's injuries, read the Law and say, as Harvard Professor Dershowitz says...there should never have been charges...the editorials and media spin is that you are racist, or a gun-nut. How do they do this....by quoting in articles "experts" who analyze people who do not agree with them...as possessing these evil qualities. How many of these erroneous emotional "quotes" are ever retracted or corrected by the Media in later articles? Have you seen articles about the exaggerations made by these Congresspeople about this case? Why not? Does the Media have no responsibility to the truth?

    Once the Media sets the hysteria going...witness statements change. The young boy who saw G on top is "corrected" by his Mother. Dad "corrects" whose voice he heard screaming. Because it becomes scary to oppose the Media in full outrage. Then they report death threats by the Black Panthers and our Government tolerates those threats. Gee, any witness, any reader...now gets the point to shut up or go with the Media Mob.

    Of couse, we have the Entertainment Ghouls...who exploit these tragedies for ratings...another "media." How often they show their ignorance of the evidence is STUNNING. But they feel NO OBLIGATION to be INFORMED. They exist to pander emotion...push hatred...convict in the public's mind before trial. It is a barbaric profession. Lawyers who go on TV and push slander, lies and misinformation for RATINGS and personal enrichment. And they are quoted as if they are "serious media." Remember NG's wailing about how the Duke accusers fingernails were brutally ripped off?

    Lee press on nails. She did her nails in the bathroom...the OTHER stripper testified to that.

    Now we have an array of disgruntled old girlfriends, Middle Easterner work associates...blah, blah. The Media takes their every word as GOSPEL...they are the embodiments of perfect truth. No one who smears GZ could ever be lying, have an agenda or a grudge. After all, it's only those who SUPPORT GZ who MUST be liars, racists, or all of the above.

    We live in an age where Media credibility is near ZERO...but we love to believe them when their VENDETTAS fit our opinions.
    A simple thank you was not enough. This post needs to be printed in all MSM. I am so tired of the BS in this case with overly zealous reporters whipping people into a frenzy with inaccurate or exaggerated reporting. I find it disgusting and it completely turns me off of a case when they do that.
    SwampMama

    GUILTY!!!

    Cyrus C. convicted of 2004 arson in Harvey, La. that killed 4 people, including his 19-month-old daughter, his teenage girlfriend, the girlfriend's mom and GF's young brother (age 11). He was acquitted in 2008 (state charges) in 2008 and found GUILTY (federal charges) in 2013

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...d_of_2004.html

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    Here is an example of reporting from NYT. Now I listened to the actual interview where she claims she heard "get off." That supposed "get off" she heard, was after the head set already fell off. By her own admission she says she could only hear " a little bit." And that is after the interviewer asks her something to the effect if the last thing she heard was a noise (when head set fell off) and she responds with a "yea." Then he keeps on probing and she says she could still hear a "little bit" after head set fell off.

    So how did Mr. Martin's voice peaked with words like "get off, get off?"

    "A girl who talked on the phone with Trayvon Martin on the night of Feb. 26 has told a state prosecutor that she heard rising fear in Mr. Martin’s voice that peaked with words like “get off, get off,” right before she lost contact with him and he was shot to death."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/19/us...hone.html?_r=1
    Just my opinion


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    He was scared so he got louder.......
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    Here is an example of reporting from NYT. Now I listened to the actual interview where she claims she heard "get off." That supposed "get off" she heard, was after the head set already fell off. By her own admission she says she could only hear " a little bit." And that is after the interviewer asks her something to the effect if the last thing she heard was a noise (when head set fell off) and she responds with a "yea." Then he keeps on probing and she says she could still hear a "little bit" after head set fell off.

    So how did Mr. Martin's voice peaked with words like "get off, get off?"

    "A girl who talked on the phone with Trayvon Martin on the night of Feb. 26 has told a state prosecutor that she heard rising fear in Mr. Martin’s voice that peaked with words like “get off, get off,” right before she lost contact with him and he was shot to death."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/19/us...hone.html?_r=1
    Excellent example. We could make this thread the longest in history because the Media is shameless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    He was scared so he got louder.......
    You should listen to the actual interview.
    Again, it was after head set fell off, and she says she could only hear a "little bit."
    And that after probing by interviewer.
    And the lawyer is previously quoted last thing she heard was someone hitting the phone, without mentioning anything about "get off."
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    You should listen to the actual interview.Again, it was after head set fell off, and she says she could only hear a "little bit."
    And that after probing by interviewer.
    And the lawyer is previously quoted last thing she heard was someone hitting the phone, without mentioning anything about "get off."
    bbm

    I did. I heard a nervous kid doing her best to answer.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    bbm

    I did. I heard a nervous kid doing her best to answer.
    And was there anything about Trayvon's voice peaking with "get off" as claimed by NYT? It sounds to me that she could barely hear anything after the head set fell off. And even the lawyer (Mr. Crump) is quoted saying last thing the g/f heard was something hitting the phone. Now all of the sudden "get off" was loud and clear and in fact Trayvon's voice peaked on "get off" if one is to read NYT article?
    Just my opinion

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